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  Gods name

  by Mr.logic in

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  what is the correct spelling of gods proper name"yahweh or jehovah"?

  if the jw's maintain that yahweh is more proper, why do they misspell it "jehovah"?

  if the name of god is so important, then you should not only pronounce it correctly, but spell it correctly too.

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  kramer

  with due respect @cappytan, is it really a straw man argument? for example the Director Jean-Luc Goddard (or even the Star Trek character Jean-Luc Picard!) has a french name, we call him Jean-Luc Goddard even though we speak English, we don't translate a non-english name into English when we refer to him and call him John-Luke. By the same reasoning as Gods name was revealed in Hebrew, shouldn't that be the creator's name we eho read the Bible should use? YHWH/Yahweh? But really,

  I dont think he is too hung up on it as according to scripture he didn't reveal it too often, called himself many things and allowed its true pronunciation to be lost. Also his son never referred to him by name - in a similar way that I never address my dad by his name - which would be a little weird
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  Governing Body Public Address - today!

  by diamondblue1974 in

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  any ideas what this is about?

  - apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.

  anyone heard anything about this?.

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  kramer

  @gayle - they mentioned Falkland Islands, Pakistan, Dubai, and I think the branch covers a couple of the other UK middle eastern countries
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  Governing Body Public Address - today!

  by diamondblue1974 in

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  any ideas what this is about?

  - apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.

  anyone heard anything about this?.

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  kramer

  As konceptual99 said... But The Searcher, you must have come in at exactly the moment that money was talked about, it was in the context of x hundreds/thousands of volunteers but those that can't volunteer some can contribute financially, one sentence in 3 hours is hardly begging for money. I was surprised /disappointed that there was not so much to make fun of, no tony tight pants like comments, it was all pretty balanced and positive.
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  UK September 15 Service Meeting

  by kramer in

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  anyone know what the change of program for that weeks meetings is about?.

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  Anyone know what the change of program for that weeks meetings is about?
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  What did Russell mean by this statement?

  by LogCon in

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  speaking of dwight moody and his associates, pastor russell wrote:.

  it is our thought that the lord used these men, and through their ministry the fore-ordained number was completed at the fore-ordained time, 1881. .

  why 1881?.

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  @focus, do you have a reference for the 2000 prediction, I haven't seen that one
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  Who Really Profits from the WTBTS?

  by Freedom77 in

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  like they say in the movies, "follow the money.

  " the thought occurred to me the other day - the wt scam rakes in billions of dollars, and yeah some of that goes to operations and equipment.

  but bethelites at farm and factory get only a bare little dorm room and a monthly pittance.

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  kramer

  People dont profit, as you have laid out the GB and the top dogs probably get a little more comfort, but people arent making private profit out of this organisation. The property deals in New York, soon to be in London and smaller amounts in other cities, will be one off hits, but thats it, for each $1bn thats about $120 per publisher, not a huge amount.
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  JW presence

  by Laika in

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  the underground station i live next to in london is usually relatively quiet, however it is also the local station closest to the wimbledon tennis courts, so for about 2 weeks a year it really comes to life, starting today.

  (yay wimbledon!

  i saw no jws last year, but they seemed to have cottoned on to this opportunity and were out in force today.

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  kramer

  @listner - no following the usual rules of not approaching people. Another one I know of shifted 40 books on a Saturday afternoon, again in a central location in the capital city. I heard figures for a months placements recently, it averaged out something like 10 magazines per hour per publisher,17,000 hours worked, 170,000 magazines. Having said that I have also seen carts in provincial towns and the attendees looked pretty much asleep.
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  JW presence

  by Laika in

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  the underground station i live next to in london is usually relatively quiet, however it is also the local station closest to the wimbledon tennis courts, so for about 2 weeks a year it really comes to life, starting today.

  (yay wimbledon!

  i saw no jws last year, but they seemed to have cottoned on to this opportunity and were out in force today.

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  in a four hour session today, in a relatively busy area in a European capital , 450 magazines and 25 books were shifted. This is pretty representative, it may be quieter in smaller towns but in major metropolitan areas it gets the publications out there
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  What are the new releases at the Regional Convention

  by kramer in

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  i think friday was a book, god's kingdom is at hand?

  was there anything else?.

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  kramer

  I think Friday was a book, God's Kingdom is at hand? Was there anything else?
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  The Governing Body's Currant Money Grab From The Rank And File Will Only Get Worse And More Oppressive

  by frankiespeakin in

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  the governing body are fighting for corporation survival here, and now and they are only going to get worse as the child molestation lawsuits must be paid out so expect more in real eastate sell offs and kingdom hall scemes to rip off the rank and file for every single penny they can get out of them praying on their extreme gulibilty to the limits another words to the breaking point.. this type of double dealing with the hard earned contributions given to support the kingdom halls will very quickly back fire on them causeing more extreme measures to pay the plaintiffs in child molestation lawsuits.

  it is a snow ball rolling down the hill..

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  kramer

  Just remind me again, is the society nearly bankrupt and fighting for survival, or banking hundreds of millions if not billions through donation and property deals in London and New York?... I do forget things..