reigninhell,
What I said earlier was that mds considers himself to be an interpreter of prophecy and Logical is one of his followers.
i've heard many people tell me about bible prophesy.
if the bible can predict future events then it stands to reason that those events are predetermined and man has no choices in this world.
think about all the choices you've made in your life and how different life for you would be if you had done things differently.
reigninhell,
What I said earlier was that mds considers himself to be an interpreter of prophecy and Logical is one of his followers.
my dilemma.
those of you who know me personally and via the web will know that i am a studious person.
now take a look at genesis 36:31. this verse says these were the kings who reigned in edom before any israelite king reigned.. at the time of writing genesis, they were no kings of israel.
Mommy,
The rainbow is about the only thing the JWs can explain. They believe that the earth was surrounded by a huge canopy of water, so that tropical conditions existed everywhere. The sky must have been overcast all the time, hence, not enough light for a rainbow. When the flood came crahing down, and now "the skys are not cloudy all day."
i've heard many people tell me about bible prophesy.
if the bible can predict future events then it stands to reason that those events are predetermined and man has no choices in this world.
think about all the choices you've made in your life and how different life for you would be if you had done things differently.
THINKER'S WIFE,
Where are you? You asked me to elaborate, and I spent considerable time doing so, and then you didn't give me even so much as a "howdy do".
Actualy, I don't give a hairy rats arsh. I just used my comments to bring this subject back up to the top of the board.
my dilemma.
those of you who know me personally and via the web will know that i am a studious person.
now take a look at genesis 36:31. this verse says these were the kings who reigned in edom before any israelite king reigned.. at the time of writing genesis, they were no kings of israel.
I'm back,
I could go on and on. Did Noah bring all the insects? I mentioned birds. They tend to be on the small side. What about the big critters like rinos and elephants, lions and giraffes and kangaroos. Speaking of kangaroos - after they got off the boat at Mt Ararat, how did they get to Australia?
Friends, this is a folk story told by many tribes that had floods in there history. They did the best they knew how to make sense out of events, just as we do today. However, the story can not be accepted as fact.
my dilemma.
those of you who know me personally and via the web will know that i am a studious person.
now take a look at genesis 36:31. this verse says these were the kings who reigned in edom before any israelite king reigned.. at the time of writing genesis, they were no kings of israel.
Hi Uncle Onion,
The story of Noah simply can't be true. The boat was a football field and a half long and about a football field wide. It had three levels to it. Noah took in two of each of the unclean animals and seven each of the clean animals. They lived in there for eleven months. Now, today there are 100,000 species of birds. Did he take in one pair of generic birds? If so, evolution really happened very rapidly after the flood. We also have problems with the fish. Fresh water fish can not live in the ocean and salt water fish can not live in fresh water lakes. Now when all this water got mixed together, how did the fish survive? Again, there would have to be fish that could survive everywhere and then evolved almost immediately so that they could live in their present habitat.
Besides all the animals, Noah would have to have an eleven month food supply for all of them. How many cubic feet of space would that take, and how would he keep it from spoiling over an 11 month time span?
I'm sorry, I'm running ahead of the "Organization."
well, i went to see my parents last night.
it was the first i had seen or spoken to my mother in over 8 months.
i also was able to see my nephew who is almost 2 and whom i haven't see in exactly a year.
When I left I was fully aware of the consequences. I left behind all of my family on my mothers side and many friends I had known since childhood. I kept in mind that when I was a true believer, I would have done the same thing I knew they would do to me, so I was not surprised by the outcome. In my opinion, if they show any degree of friendship and love, they consider themselves as being brave for "bending the rules." I was grateful for any crumb of kindness they showed. In my case, many years went by, but my zealous JW sister does talk to me now on a regular basis. I am sure that none of her friends at the Kingdom Hall know this.
despite an abundance of evidence that hits at the heart of the wts, it should be no surprise that many seem to ignore everything and continue.
you may wonder why particularly as many of us were in the wts and did not ignore the comprehensive mass of proof against the claims and teachings made.
typically brothers can enjoy themselves as elders.
ISP,
I thought that was an ecellant post. The various reasons some will not leave was well thought out.
I agree with us being diplomatic in expressing our views. I am sure there are some JW lurkers who read here, and I'd hate see them scared off because they think we are a bunch of pagan barbarians. That would fit the steriotype they have been told about us by the Society.
god's "servant" speaks the "good news" to modern-day "israel" .
-- see isaiah 53:1; john 12:38.. this is his message for israel today...his special message to be delivered to jehovah's witnesses, of our day...all jehovah's witnesses, present-day or ex-...even bible studies of jehovah's witnesses... speaks to all of them.
also, as mentioned above in isaiah 50:10 it states,.
mds,
How's the wife and kids? How's your job going? Who do you think will win the World Series this year? Last but not least: how is your retirement plan coming along?
i'm wrapping up a psychoanalytic paper about witnesses and images of death in their literature.
it's due tomorrow or sat., depending ... anyway, the paper is almost done, but i'm trying to collect and print out some "end of the world" pics to submit with the text.
can anyone provide me with some specific sites with scanned pics of this sort?
Dedalus,
I don't have any pictures. Could you post your article here? I am sure that there are many of us who would be interested in reading it.
> http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0301/roleofwomen.html
Hi all,
If you go to the web site posted above, then go to search on the page and type in the word - India, you will find a hiarious satire on end of the world beliefs.