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What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

It runs scared from reason and science every time.
Could you expand this assertion?
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

If that is supposed to be an excuse for god then it is a pathetic one.
Not a theodicy but a defence.
Your god has been murdering millions of humans with tsunamis for thousands of years. Long before detection was possible.
Besides the implications of guilty this is a good point.
I can only say that we have faith in heavenly bliss to those who died by horrendous evil.
The problem of evil is very hard to contemplate.
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

Because it's not demonstable and it's not provable. It's scientific terms it's a worthless concept. That's why it can be logically ruled out.
Until such time you can demonstrate it, obviously.
Asking scientific proof for a philosophical question?
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

Cofty
I noticed that you approach the problem of evil with natural disasters. Specially the asian tsunami of 2004.
That's a good point.
But you know is very easy to predict a tsunami and that region is very familiar with this natural problem.
Why there was no warning about that tsunami?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO412C.html
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

Show me evidence that no other animal besides humans can't and I'll grant your premise.
Behaviorism.
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

Not in the least. You're still making claims and conflating two conclusions without any reason to believe several of the claims are true.
Also, it's really, really bad logic.
So, no, it's NOT better.
So you say my premise is false?
So tell what non human animal can conceive infinity.
Maybe a snake?
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

Premise A: No infant can understand Shakespeare
Premise B: Adult humans can understand Shakespeare
Conclusion 1: The origin of adult humans cannot be traced to any infant.
Shakespeare is not the sense of infinity. But Shakespeare can be learned. The sense of infinity just appear some point in our minds, it's not learned.
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

Lots of problems of definition there John.
When you say "no animal" can conceive infinity you are assuming that humans are not animals, and you are drawing a distinction that needs to be proved rather than simply asserted.
Yes, I see what you mean.
But you know what I mean right?
I accept suggestions about the phrasing.
I accept humans are animals anatomically speaking. But I'd in mind the "software" in them.
C1/Premise A: No other animal specie can conceive infinity.
Better?
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

K99
Actually I don't have a lot of knowledge about the scientific method among Muslims. I know they made significant achievements in scientific knowledge. I'll research about it.
For now I can rephrase what I said. Instead of "Christian" you can read "Abrahamic tradition".
583
What is the purpose of life?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
John_Mann

Here's some reasoning of mine about the cause of human mind:
Premise A: No animal can conceive infinity.
Premise B: Human mind can conceive infinity.

Conclusion 1: The origin of human mind cannot be traced to any animal.

Premise A: The human mind must have a cause.
Premise B: Only infinity can contain infinity.
Premise C: The cause of human mind must be infinity.
Premise D: This cause must possess the intentional ability to manipulate infinity.

Conclusion 2: Human mind was caused by an infinite mind.

C1 + C2: Human mind have no natural cause. It's cause must be supernatural.