(I know that Mr Franz would play it down but I cannot put into words what I feel that I owe him. Not just for me but for the freedom of my two daughters.)
2.
John_Mann
JoinedPosts by John_Mann
-
48
What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?
by minimus inas a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.
i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.
i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.
-
-
-
48
What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?
by minimus inas a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.
i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.
i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.
-
-
John_Mann
When I was a born in JW I thought apostates were the crazy born again christian believers.
I remember (when I was about 16yo) to see a book in a shop intitled "Jehovah, a false god". I was very scared with that book.
I also remember (when I was about 14yo) a book from David Reed in my uncle's house.
But I never even touched such books.
In 2000 when I was 18yo I searched for the first time "Jehovah's Witnesses" in internet and came a result of a site called "Watching the Watchtower". I turned off the page at same time.
In 2004 when I was in an informatic class I searched the JW's again and for the first time I read something apostate. It was a story about an elder who left the WT and became a born again christian, the story was very subjective and full of whining. I reinforced my opionio about apostates being losers and leaving for personal offenses.
In 2006 I was bored at work then I decided to look on wikipedia about what the other religions thought about the Babylon from revelation book. I was very surprised with the article about the JW view, because it was plainly CORRECT! I expected hate speech and misinformation about the JW's even from wikipedia.
But I found something very strange in the JW page on wikipedia, there's something about a man called Raymond Franz who was supposed an ex- GB member! I thought to myself: "bullshit, there's no such thing as an ex-GB member"! So I went to read the article on RF to disprove he was a real ex-GB member, and the rest is history and a lot of punches on my table and blood boiling in my veins.... LOL
I still remember my head spinning and the nausea while reading the 2 chapters from CoC in wikipedia links.
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
(Reject the OT but accept everything in the NT about Jesus.)
She denies a lot of things about Jesus too. Like Jesus preaching how you must treat your slaves. And violent references of Jesus in the gospels and apocalipse.
It's not cherry picking it's atom picking.
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
Both of them like to capitalize some words too.
Or they are the same person or they are infected with same mental virus. I know people can be programmed to use same language and thought pattern in controled environments (like the Borg).
Tec, about the bible writing... I used an analogy showing that you cannot hide your style even when is mixed up with others. The principle is the same, one writing as several people or several people writing as one, it's an equation.
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
(On top of all of that, duplicate accounts are not permitted on this... or even on my... forum.)
Welcome to the 21 century! Even my refrigerator have an internet connection with its own IP. Only through telepathy someone would know I'm using several accounts with different IP's.
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
What makes me think tec is justmom is this thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/229525/1/GREAT-WEEKEND#.UllzYiSkp2E
A very irrelevant thread answered by tec, same blah blah about organized religion, one ends with love/signature the other with peace/signature, same taste for lower case letters...
It's just how the bible was written, several writers with distinct styles writing under the same name. But you can't fool people who use critical thinking.
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
Tec, and what Lars speaks to you?
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
"JustMom","Shelby/aguest" and "tec" are 3 seperate people..
It's very clear these accounts belongs to a same person.
Three persons but one substance.
But tec does not believe in trinity, nevermind!
Funny thing if you consider Lars is Christ, so tec listen to Lars in her mind.
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
Tec you are a narcissist. You feel special and superior to anyone else and all you want is attention.
You feel special and superior when you say the supposed hightest being in the universe speaks specific things in your ears.
And you seek attention when you debate with nonsense in a forum of rational people, and unfortunately you get a lot of attention.
Where I live there's a saying: Don't clap to a crazy to dance. We're all clapping to you because it's funny to see you crazy dancing with your delusional "arguments". It's funny to us but it's danger to your mental health.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
-
143
Come... take the free gift of the water of life!
by tec inpeace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
-
-
John_Mann
Tec did you ever gone to a psychiatrist?
I think you have some delusional disorder.