I was a JW all my life and at 55 I just couldn't go on thinking "what if" I am wasting my life away peddling literature containing 120 years of false predictions and perpetuating beliefs that have not been proven or worse proven false by science and history! Reasearch on the history of the WT and verification of the secular "proof" used in their doctrine convinced me that I had not one more second to wasted on their account...
Posts by NVR2L8
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69I left the Witnesses over 10 years ago, but finally went back
by JakeMarley inthe entire time i was gone it was nagging at me.
i hadn't been previously baptized, so leaving wasn't that big a deal.
now i'm back in the swing of it, going to all meetings and field service.
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Have you ever heard a talk on child molestation following a judicial reproof?
by NVR2L8 inwhen someone is reprimanded by a judicial commitee there is usually a talk given to the congregation about issues that leads to serious sins.
sometimes that talk takes you by surprise because the reproof was private and no announcement was made to the congregation.
other times you figure out why an individual was the object of a judicial commitee...i heard talks on the usage of drugs, cigarettes, pornography, bad forms of intertainment, fornication, adultery, fraud, gambling, disapproved medical treatments...but never on child abusers and mostly how to protect your children against this terrible crime.. do you think the reason there is never mention of child abuse is that if many knew there is a child molester in their midst they would pressure the elders to go to the autorities?
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NVR2L8
When someone is reprimanded by a judicial commitee there is usually a talk given to the congregation about issues that leads to serious sins. Sometimes that talk takes you by surprise because the reproof was private and no announcement was made to the congregation. Other times you figure out why an individual was the object of a judicial commitee...I heard talks on the usage of drugs, cigarettes, pornography, bad forms of intertainment, fornication, adultery, fraud, gambling, disapproved medical treatments...but never on child abusers and mostly how to protect your children against this terrible crime.
Do you think the reason there is never mention of child abuse is that if many knew there is a child molester in their midst they would pressure the elders to go to the autorities? Would it create a movement of panic and many would simply go to another congregation? Would they just trust that the elders have everything under control?
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My wife's JW brother/wife and cousin/husband are coming for a visit....
by NVR2L8 init's been 2 years since my last meeting and i have been avoiding all contacts with jws to stay under the radar.
i've had my brother, sister and mom visit from back home 300 miles away and except for my mom i told the others why i stopped believing in the wt's teachings.
they told me that i should do what makes me happy and that nothing would change between us...we will see.
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NVR2L8
Thanks for the advice Blondie. I always enjoy your contribution to this board. I will keep you posted on how it went.
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No more blood card
by lostinthought inwhat a day!
first of all one of my electronic devises broke so the store said they would replace it i just needed to show id, i removed my license from my wallet and saw my blood card staring me in the face i couldn't stand looking at it so i took it and crumpled it up and threw it away, upon leaving the store i had a car accident it the parking lot, nobody was terribly injured but it was my fault so i feel bad...but i also feel elated that i tore up the card, what if i had a really bad accident and i needed blood?
what could have happened to me?
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NVR2L8
I remember how careful I was when I opened my wallet so no one would see that no blood card identifying me as a JW...After deciding not to go back to the KHall after the 2010 DC, I tore up the card and will accept any treatment available to save my life.
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My wife's JW brother/wife and cousin/husband are coming for a visit....
by NVR2L8 init's been 2 years since my last meeting and i have been avoiding all contacts with jws to stay under the radar.
i've had my brother, sister and mom visit from back home 300 miles away and except for my mom i told the others why i stopped believing in the wt's teachings.
they told me that i should do what makes me happy and that nothing would change between us...we will see.
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It's been 2 years since my last meeting and I have been avoiding all contacts with JWs to stay under the radar. I've had my brother, sister and mom visit from back home 300 miles away and except for my mom I told the others why I stopped believing in the WT's teachings. They told me that I should do what makes me happy and that nothing would change between us...we will see. Next week my wife is having her relatives visit from 350 miles away and they are planning to stay for the week. This also coincide with my first week of summer vacation...what a bummer. So I will be stuck home with them and will have to listen to their JW talk...how great the convention was, brother and sister so & so did this, guess who is pioneering and was made an elder...blah,blah,blah. I don't know what will happen when they realize that I no longer pray at meals or go to the meetings...I hope my wife warned them because if they get me started I can't garantee I can hold back regardless of the consequences. I find that now I have a very low level of tolerance when people perpetuate lies or parrot the WT propaganda as if it was the absolute truth...I usually stay silent and walk away, but I find it increasingly difficult to resist telling them how I really feel...
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Disfellowshipped for Being Raped!
by UnDisfellowshipped inmarch 8th 1974 issue, pages 13-16:.
"scream!
scream!
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A brother who was engaged to be married came to my daughter's door because he needed someone to confide in...he was having second thoughts about marrying his fiancee when in fact he said he had feelings for my daughter. It ended up that he foreced himself on her and when my daughter went to the elders they didn't believe her because the brother denied it all. He said that she made up the story to cause a break up with his fiancee so she could have him. My daughter wanted to confront him in front of the elders, but because he was from another congregation that didn't happen. Several friends of the couple called my daughter to threaten her and insulte her...but the mother of the bride who also called said the she believed her. In the end my daughter disassociated herself after she found out the brother still got married at the KHall. A year later the truth came out and the couple divorced. There was no apology from the elders who treated the affair...In the end she would have been disfellowhipped anyways because she didn't scream rape!
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what is the dumbest thing you've been reproved/chided/df'd for?
by rather be in hades ini'm a big science nerd and i remember when we were going over the creator book, that the big bang doesn't necessarily prove there is no god.. i said this comment during book study and the conductor's jaw dropped.
everyone was pretty uncomfortable and it didn't help that he ct me off as i was explaining the red shift and mom wasn't too happy about all that.
i had to do a lot of bible research and write some nonsense about how the big bang was not reality or some sort...ugh.. .
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Growing hair above my upper lip! Buying a 2-door car. Buying a motorcycle that I rode to the meetings and in service just to piss off the hounders. Playing hockey on a regular basis...should be random and not organized and if I didn't stop I would be removed as a MS. I told the elders who admitted watching TV an hour or two everyday that this was actually worse than me playing hockey for 90 minutes on a Friday night...Fathering children during the 1975...what are you thinking! These children have grown up and have children attending school!
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The REMOVAL of many books
by irondork ini understand the wts encouraged or instructed the congregations to dispose of all books printed before the year ????
they didn't want this old light (aka.
apostate literature) floating around their libraries.. did these instructions come via a wt article or was it a letter to the elders?
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In my house all WT publications (except for those recently used by my JW wife) have been tossed in a dumpster...I told my wife that these old publications were what caused me to stop believing in the WT and if anyone held what they contain as the "truth" they would be labelled as apostates and disfellowshipped! But as always she heard what I said but her mind has been programmed to block anything that is a threat to her faith.
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For those in any doubt that the Society is at war with Facebook...
by cedars in...take a look at this from page 29 of the latest october 2012 awake!.
the gloves are now well-and-truly off.
referring to facebook as a "social networking website" clearly isn't working.. the society now feels compelled to start being more specific about which websites it doesn't want you to visit!.
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NVR2L8
If Facebook keeps such extensive records what would deleting your account change? Nevertheless, JWs will see social network site as evil and that's what mother wants.
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Anonymous And Pro JW Discussion Forums
by DT inregardless of your opinions of anonymous, they have been busy working against the watchtower society and may end up inflicting some serious damage soon.
anonymous has a very different culture than the xjw community.
they should not be seen as in alliance with us, even though we share some common goals.. anonymous tends to resent being viewed as a personal army for another person or group.
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JWs knocking on your door will use the movie theatre shootings to convince you that the Bible predicted such events would occur in the last days - and if you want to survive the destruction of this evil world you live in you better join them now and run to the KHall to find refuge...
The only lowest thing they do is to use a funeral talk to spread their propaganda to the unbelievers attending...