likewise grateful. i had so much trouble with the streaming. couldn't even get a video, just bad sound. the RC site must have been deluged w/ viewers and i thought for a moment NO ONE was going to get a decent recording. GREAT WORK!!
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Part 1 Video UP Geoffrey Jacksons questioning at the Australia Commission
by Watchtower-Free in1st half to nights video .
higher quality later.
http://youtu.be/quud_f1jr7e .
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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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@ Crow
you said:
A 'sincere' apology..."Oh, honey...I am so, so, sorry
I never heard the word "sorry" in all that mush and I was listening for it. I'll listen again when I review the recording
A sociopathic response ... I'm no expert, but I tend to agree he's a sociopath w/out a conscience. He was waaay too plastic in his attempt at empathy. I almost turned it off after that, it made me so sick!
Geez,Jackson. Ya can't have it both ways. This is an Excellent observation Crow - A+ !! First he says he can't know what women feel, then later he says he knows the terrible trauma she feels.
- an empty shell. Yep, like most every other JW i've ever met.
I don't know if I can sleep now after all of this tonight.
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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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That article I just posted about God using women concluded: women tend to hear from God more than men (in the Bible), and yet they maintain that it is the men who have the spiritual authority in the church and home.
Then it says this:
From the Scriptures, we can clearly see that God does not speak solely to men and husbands, even in matters that directly affect them and their families. God can and does entrust his word – with the authority it entails – directly to women and wives. God can and does speak to women without using husbands and male church leaders as mediators. All believers have direct access to God through Jesus and his Holy Spirit, and vice versa.
“There is one mediator between God and people (or humankind), the person (or human being) Christ Jesus.” (1 Timothy 2:5, literal translation.)
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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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http://newlife.id.au/equality-and-gender-issues/bible-women-with-spiritual-authority/
I've read better articles than this about women appointed by God in the Bible, but this one highlights it pretty well. I think Angus needs to direct this question at GJ - what about these women who had authority in the Bible?
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by LostinJapan in.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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This was a revealing interchange:
Angus: Deut 22:23-27 There was no other witness when she was raped.
GJ: but there were circumstances
Angus: yes - the circumstance was she was raped in the field. So is the scriptural basis really so solid for your 2 witness rule?
GJ: Cimcumstances can be the 2nd witness.
Angus: And yet, however, there needn't be a 2nd witness in the case of adultery to be determined according to your Elder Handbook.
This contradiction I don't think GJ had thought too much about.
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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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Angus: Do you accept that JWs don't report child abuse unless legally required? Is there a scriptural basis for this?
GJ: Prov 25:8-10 is one factor to consider. the 2nd issue 1Pet 5:2,3 - elder doesn't have authority over a family whether they want to report or not...or whether the accused wants to report.
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by LostinJapan in.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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Angus: who decides whether the wrongdoing has been established?
GJ: 2 elders see if there's a basis for the accusation before a judicial meeting.
Angus: Is it always necessery to use 2 MEN in this or could a woman be used in this preliminary determination is established?
GJ: (vague)
Angus: who makes the decision? It must be elders?
GJ: Yes
Angus: where is this in the Bible?
GJ: 1 Cor 11:3 (headship scrip) Men make final decisions.
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by LostinJapan in.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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PM: Is there a Biblical impediment to using a woman in the judicial process aspect?
GJ: Commissions suggestions good.
Women can be involved in all aspects up to the judicial decision process.
PM: Can women be involved in the judicial determination of whether the allegation is true or false? Is there room for a change in this?
Gj: Worthy of consideration. Yes it is possible.