Posts by Alfred

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How Come I Rarely See People In Field Service, Vs The 1980-1990s Doing House2House?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

field service hours have hit new records each year, but i am seeing less people working the territory.

where is all the time spent, that people are putting in the field ministry?

it's been close to ten years, since i have seen people working certain territories.

Alfred

When I stopped going to Field Service in early 2010, the service overseer would approach me with something like: "Alfred, are you sure you didn't have at least one conversation with someone at work about Jehovah??? You may not know this yet but all you need is 15 minutes and we won't need to mark you down as IRREGULAR."

I'd say: "Yes brother Worried-About-The CO's-Visit-Next-Month, I'm 100% sure... I have no hours to report at all."

He would then look down in dissapointment and his mind would start to race... but before he could think of anything else to say, I'd be long gone...

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Finally an Article About Unthank!

by jamiebowers in

http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/news/local/news/general/private-prosecution-gets-thrown-out-of-court/2468225.aspx?storypage=2private prosecution gets thrown out of court.

by louis nelson.

27 feb, 2012 01:00 am.

Alfred

I posted a very polite comment on this news article over 8 hours ago... and I still see the same two comments that were posted before mine... I guess the moderators are still aslepp in Australia?... is anyone else here still waiting to see their comment posted on this article?

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Drawings of NEW Watchtower World Headquarters in Warwick, New York

by Alfred in

scroll down to last few pages to see the drawings.... http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20m_swppp%20&%20drawings.pdf.

among the ammenities are a sand volley ball court, two tennis courts and a full basketball court.... there's also parking garages and picnic areas for visitors.... by the way, not sure exactly what this is but you'll notice a shaded area labelled "undergound chamber"... interesting.... (i wonder if moving out to the middle of nowhere was intended to keep bethelites from sneaking out at night and going to the liquor store... just saying).

Alfred

Yan... i just looked at it again...

On page 534, it's simply labelled "UNDERGROUND CHAMBER"

but if you back up to page 517, it appears that the same area is given a more specific label (Underground Stormwater Infiltration / Detention Chamber)...

so you're right... thanks for catching that!

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Drawings of NEW Watchtower World Headquarters in Warwick, New York

by Alfred in

scroll down to last few pages to see the drawings.... http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20m_swppp%20&%20drawings.pdf.

among the ammenities are a sand volley ball court, two tennis courts and a full basketball court.... there's also parking garages and picnic areas for visitors.... by the way, not sure exactly what this is but you'll notice a shaded area labelled "undergound chamber"... interesting.... (i wonder if moving out to the middle of nowhere was intended to keep bethelites from sneaking out at night and going to the liquor store... just saying).

Alfred

I'm thinking maybe it's for future water storage...

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Drawings of NEW Watchtower World Headquarters in Warwick, New York

by Alfred in

scroll down to last few pages to see the drawings.... http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20m_swppp%20&%20drawings.pdf.

among the ammenities are a sand volley ball court, two tennis courts and a full basketball court.... there's also parking garages and picnic areas for visitors.... by the way, not sure exactly what this is but you'll notice a shaded area labelled "undergound chamber"... interesting.... (i wonder if moving out to the middle of nowhere was intended to keep bethelites from sneaking out at night and going to the liquor store... just saying).

Alfred

Initially, that's what I thought also but then I noticed a separate area for water treatment...

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Drawings of NEW Watchtower World Headquarters in Warwick, New York

by Alfred in

scroll down to last few pages to see the drawings.... http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20m_swppp%20&%20drawings.pdf.

among the ammenities are a sand volley ball court, two tennis courts and a full basketball court.... there's also parking garages and picnic areas for visitors.... by the way, not sure exactly what this is but you'll notice a shaded area labelled "undergound chamber"... interesting.... (i wonder if moving out to the middle of nowhere was intended to keep bethelites from sneaking out at night and going to the liquor store... just saying).

Alfred

Any theories on what the UNDERGROUND CHAMBER is or it's future intended purpose?

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Assembly Hall sold in Barcelona city (Spain) Where is the money?

by JHK in

the governing body bank has sold the assembly hall in barcelona city (spain).

now, we have not any en barcelona city!.

where is our money?

Alfred

They need this money to invest in African infrastructure projects...

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Random thoughts about the organization. In 20 years.....

by stuckinamovement in

jw
friends

many people will scoff at the thought that the org will collapse.

i agree that it will never collapse but the crumbling has begun.

think about the following.....they have a serious lack of potential future leaders.

Alfred

Printed information will be scarce in the year 2032. Also, very few people will have cash on hand in their homes.

So the WT will need to find something else to sell and a diffrent method of collecting contributions during Field Circus... I can see brothers walking around with Portable Debit Machines but no one willing to enter their PIN numbers...

Yeah, the WT is really just 2 decades away from collapsing entirely...

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End of an era: The original members of the Governing Body have all died

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

the reported death of governing body member bro.

barr marks the end of an era.

many of the original members of the governing body were around during the days of president rutherford.

Alfred

I think the current Governing Body will eventually be forced to send out "feelers" to see who might be interested in joining the body... The feeler will likely have this "invitation" at the end...

Brother DO... lately, we have noticed the holy spirit advancing kingdom interests like never before. It has been directing our decision-making with clear direction on which of Jehovah's servants are most qualified to shepherd the flock in the few remaining days of this system. You will do well in giving prayerful consideration into whether or not you may be in line for the heavenly calling. To this end, we would like to meet with you on XXXXXXXX to discuss your theocratic goals and also to determine your possible status as one of Jehovah's annointed."

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How would you prove that the Watchtower rejects Jesus?

by Fernando in

these are the immediate thoughts that come to mind for me:.

jesus was against religion/ists (matthew 23 esp v15).. the watchtower is pro-religion - their version.. the watchtower teaches a "religion about jesus" instead of a relationship with him.

they do this because jesus always has led people away from the sanhedrin (governing body) and the pharisees (ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy).. these "builders" of religion stumble at using the "stone of stumbling" and the "rockmass of offense" when building their god defying religious empires to rule over and control the laity class (dumb sheeple) with inane rules (legalism) and other devices of supremacist self-righteousness.

Alfred

I remember in the 70's and 80's Jesus took a backseat to Jehovah in every book, public talk, WT magazine, and JW conversations... he was very rarely mentioned (every conversation was always heavily loaded with Jehovah or the faithful and discreet Slave, and sometimes Jesus)... Then, in the 90's, I noticed a slight shift and lately, it seems that they're trying to seem more pro-Jesus than ever before... not sure what brought this on but I have to think they are simply adjusting to the laws of "supply and demand"...