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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

Also, the process of leaving is a personal process of freedom. Whenever someone gets involved with taking down the Watchtower, either through activism or some sort of governmental means, it's just prolonging your prison sentence.
It's tough, but you have to get to a place where you recognize that :
1. If you went in as an adult, you made that choice. Sorry, you fucked up. Own it. Leave. And if your family rejects you, that's their choice, their responsibly. They are fucking up. Accept it, and make them own it.
2. If you grew up in it, you didn't make the choice as a child. But you eventually made the choice as an adult to leave. Good for you. See second part of #1 above.
Forums like this are personal. They allow you to talk and others to respond on a wide range of topics, not just JW stuff. The stuff coming from Lloyd and others (like 6 screens with their calls) is like a replacement for meetings. Uggg.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

Regarding video above posted by silentlamb:
She is right. After a while, the old topics, the ones that "prove the WT is wrong" etc, although true, get boring. When you are finally out, the world opens up and you realize that you shouldn't be sitting around being mentally, emotionally, physically, and financially involved with the WT at all, and that includes letting them live in your head through your pain.
Yeah, they are all assholes. Now, let's go live.
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Where do we go from here, the Lloyd-gate?
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
the problem is where do we go from here?

lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?

we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.
MeanMrMustard

Six screens of the Watchtower is still around, and we don't ask what we are supposed to do next.
Just keep going with your life. That's the most important thing.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

Joey jojo:

It's not defamation, not legally. You may feel like he has a case against those statements, but he does not.

The truth is always a defense against defamation. That means, it doesn't matter how it "feels" or how scandalous it could be, he admitted, in a video, that he goes to see prostitutes on a regular basis in locations where it's illegal. Taking note of that is not defamation.
As a neutral observer, the amount of judgment on this thread is breathtaking.
Where did the idea come from that when you leave JWs you stop judging people, as if applying morality is immoral?! What kind of postmodern think is this?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

.... I've had a look at the defamation laws in the us and uk, aren't some of you a little concerned about making these accusations on a public forum?
No.
It's possible he went there for hot fudge packing action with definitely-older-than-20-year-old gay Jewish black Thai dudes.
Was that an accusation?
Also, he's a public figure. Factual statements must be made with "actual malice", a standard nearly impossible to meet.
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Lloyd Evans is a train wreck.
by mickbobcat in
1. social
2. current
i don't know if someone has already posted this, but lloyd has put up a video talking about his hooking up with hookers.

personally that does not bother me but the way he is handling it is such a god damn train wreck.

this guy is insane..
MeanMrMustard

@RandR:
It's the Alec Baldwin syndrome.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

When you leave the WT, it doesn't mean all moral standards are discarded.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

I haven't really watched any of his stuff... have I been shunning him?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

@NewlyEnlightened: Sounds like he is generally an asshole.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
MeanMrMustard

This doesnt sound like an "oh-I-was-weak-and-couldn't-help-myself-in-the-moment-around-these-hot-gay-jewish-black-dudes-from-Thailand" sort-of scenario.

Sounds like he planned the trips. Think of all the opportunities someone would have to turn away from that course of action - the car, the airport, the other airport, hotel. There's nothing sudden about it. The decision stretches out over weeks, including planning.