a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@Rivergang:
That seems a bit obvious. If it handled by a secession, then the outcome will be determined by the secession. If it is handled by an armed conflict, then the outcome will be determined by the armed conflict. If it is handled by the big tech companies silencing any dissent, then the outcome will be determined by the censorship. Again, seems obvious.
But then again, is anything really "handled"?
someone i know from england is a nurse.
she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.
she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.
Even non-political information would be nice. People are smart and can make good decisions, if given good information.
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@Rivergang:
If that is true, then you are saying there is no real reason for the divide. It's just humans being ass holes ("human nature" and its tendency to oppose a position for no reason at all). You've reduced both sides to having no real reason for holding their positions.
This isn't a divide over whether the tax rate should be 10% or 15%. Those are the divisions we've had in the past. Now, the country **wants** to split.
When a couple gets a divorce, it is unlikely because the wife couldn't make a decent tuna casserole.
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@peacefulpete:
Divides have always existed. But a new element is the weaponizing of the internet.
So you are saying that these divisions have always been there, but the internet has caused them to become more explicit? If that is true, then it dodges the real question: Why is there a divide? What *really* is the divide?
Or are you saying that the divide is actually small, and the internet is creating a fake divide?
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
Ok, so let’s try :
Why do you (not directed toward anyone in particular) think there is such a political divide?
someone i know from england is a nurse.
she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.
she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.
I one time heard about this person who was wearing a seatbelt, got in a head-on auto collision, and died anyway.
I don’t think anyone was saying that you shouldn’t take the vaccine because it is not 100% effective.
Today, to be more consistent with the current risk assessment we have, we should ban cars outright. So many people die in accidents each year, and the number of cases (people driving) is only increasing. It’s worth it if we save one life. #BanDeathCarriages #ItsTime
so you've probably heard of the ethical dilemma question which is a thought-experiment where you imagine there is a runaway train-trolley, a junction with a lever that you can pull and two tracks - one with 5 workers on it and another with just 1, but no way to warn them.. all you can do is pull the lever, or not, thus allowing 5 people to die or through your direct action sacrificing 1 to save them.. what should you do?.
this sort of thing may seem silly but it comes up in real life.
should a self-driving car for instance, faced with a certain collision, chose which pedestrians to run over?
Today trolley = COVID, switch = lockdowns. Except the problem is a bit different. The track forks, and if the switch is activated (no lockdown) the trolley moves to a track with one person on it, often referred to as “grandma”, destined for death. But on the other track, there seems to be nobody. The track is clear. The choice seems obvious. But if you look a few miles down the track, out of the current view, there’s several million lined up ready for slaughter, just out of the view at the moment.
so you've probably heard of the ethical dilemma question which is a thought-experiment where you imagine there is a runaway train-trolley, a junction with a lever that you can pull and two tracks - one with 5 workers on it and another with just 1, but no way to warn them.. all you can do is pull the lever, or not, thus allowing 5 people to die or through your direct action sacrificing 1 to save them.. what should you do?.
this sort of thing may seem silly but it comes up in real life.
should a self-driving car for instance, faced with a certain collision, chose which pedestrians to run over?
most republican senators believe, as i do that you can’t impeach and convict a president unless he is in office.
with the opposing sides thinking, perhaps obama, bush clinton and carter could have their records reviewed and face the political punishment of impeachment and conviction after their presidency ended too?.
Better yet, since we are setting the precedent to put on trial private citizens, why not impeach the political front runner of the opposing party each election cycle. Nothing could go wrong with that, right?
someone i know from england is a nurse.
she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.
she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.
It just shows you can still get the vacs and STILL GET THE VIRUS.
So, it’s just like the flu. Get a vaccine, virus mutates, some people still get it. Some people still die, even some young people. But we don’t shut down society and the economy for the flu.
People these days have lost all perspective on risk.
