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  Memorial attendance

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  curious.

  what was your local memorial attendance like tonight?

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  About a month ago, I encountered several JWs at a literature cart in a major airport.

  They invited me to the Memorial.

  I just rushed off to my plane.

  Later, I kicked myself for not doing some reverse witnessing.

  I could have said: "I actually attended a Watchtower Memorial once but I found it really confusing. Who invites someone to a meal and then tells them they aren't worthy to partake? When Jesus instituted the meal in the first century, did he invite any non-participants to come and watch? No. So why does the Watchtower do so?"
  
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  Memorial attendance

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  curious.

  what was your local memorial attendance like tonight?

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  If attendance is high, the GB will tout that as proof that JWs have the truth.

  If attendance is low, the GB will talk about people's hearts growing cold in the last days, proving that Armageddon is just around the corner.
  
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  Diligence and Enthusiasm - LDS vs JWs

  by Rivergang in

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  on a scale of 1 to 100, i would put the lds in the high 90s, and the witnesses at about minus 10.. these days (well, around here at least) one encounters the mormon missionaries all over the place.

  if they are not knocking at your door, they are approaching you out in the street.

  of late, this has been happening all the bloody time!.

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  Over the last 5 years, we've had about 20 LDS missionaries knock on our door or come up to us on the street but no JWs (of course, JWs have us on their DNC list). The KH parking lot has quite a few cars in it during the week but I haven't seen any of them actually out in service.
  
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  How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. bible

  w64 11/1 pp.

  645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

  how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

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  It amazes me how often the GB denounces some unnamed person or group without realizing that their denunciation applies full force to themselves: "The peril would be not so much from the openly avowed opponents of Christ as from those who would rise up claiming to be Christ [anointed] or claiming to exercise the rights and prerogatives of Christ as his empowered representatives. Disarmed by an outward show of godliness and by “smooth talk and complimentary speech,” many unwary Christians would be seduced into following ‘wolves in sheep’s covering’ and eventually becoming prey to such selfish deceivers."
  
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  How Do JWs Understand Salvation & What Is Needed to Obtain It?

  by LauraLynn in

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  from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.

  salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.

  to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.

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  WT "Salvation" = Jehovah deeming you worthy of a resurrection (or surviving Armageddon)

  How obtained = "exercising faith" in Jehovah's name and in Jesus' ransom sacrifice = serving Jehovah as part of his earthly organization (the Watchtower Society) by obeying "the faithful and discreet slave" (the GB) sufficiently well and remaining faithful to the end of your life.

  "Sufficiently well" = only Jehovah knows (most likely more than what you have been doing)
  
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  New here

  by AdamCzarnobay in

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  i left the organization in 2017.. was in several congregations in the north west of england.

  i just wanted to say thank you to all of you that have posted on here over the years, it really helped me to see the truth about the organization.

  i lurked here for many years under an anonymous login and then finally plucked up the courage to write my disassociation letter.. adam.

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  Welcome!

  What was it that convinced you the Watchtower religion isn't the truth as it claims to be?
  
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  Unchangeable wisdom from the "slave" of yesteryear! 😀

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. bible

  brethern, and cistern, today's lesson from the golden calf is one of profound importance - never to be forgotten!.

  w56 6/15 p. 360 - "we usually believe what we want to believe, and one thing we like to believe is that we do our own thinking.

  they plant the thought and nourish it, but do it so subtly that we think it is our own.

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  The GB are very skilled at denouncing nameless people for the very thing they are doing.
  
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  I need to vent sorry!

  by KerryKing in

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  i couldn't get back to sleep last night, something my father said a few weeks ago popped into my head.. we were talking about obtaining citizenship, he doesn't need it, but was contemplating what benefits it could get him now he's a pensioner.. background : i've been disfellowhipped for 15 years, i was born in, he is an elder, very much pimi, he was also born in.. i said to him how citizenship would be difficult for him as it would require him to swear allegiance to the state?.

  oh he said, thats just a crowd of people together in a big room for the swearing in event, it would be easy to just mumble or say nothing, nobody would know.. this has quietly been eating away in my mind, why did it bother me?.

  last night it hit me, when i was in my first year of school, age 5, i came out of school one day with a balloon with two little pencils attached, a gift from a classmate who's birthday it was, every child got one.

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  I knew two brothers who each served 5 years in prison because they weren't allowed to tell the judge they would accept alternative service.

  Oh, never mind... new light... nothing to see here.
  
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  End within 2 years (again)

  by road to nowhere in

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  an old elder friend from out of town stopped to see my ailing wife.

  more than the locals do.

  he said elder school emphasized 2 years and the existing body will be the leaders through persecution and tribulation.

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  2 years from now, he will deny they ever said it or that he ever thought it.
  
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  Loss of a Jehovah’s Witness who I considered a friend

  by Fallen_Winter in

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  i have known a jehovah’s witness for approximately 15 years and i have considered her a friend although i know that jehovah’s witnesses cannot have friends who are not jehovah’s witnesses.

  approximately two years ago, i was going through a very difficult time and i asked my friend if we could have bible study.

  she said yes and we have been studying the bible since.

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  Ironically, the 1970s directive to discontinue a study after 6 months if the person wasn't ready to be baptized was based on the WT's teaching that 1975 would bring Armageddon.

  It's been nearly 50 years since then.