Posts by julien

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Check this out ! !

by GeorgieT in

i called my mom after the dateline show, she said they had a talk about that at the meeting that night!

then she said the speaker brougt out scriptures rev 12:9 and 12:12, can you believe that!

i have no idea what those scriptures say, haven't owned a bible in twenty plus years, but i'm sure it doesn't say " don't believe that evil dateline show, it's all lies"!

julien

The Revelation reference is about Satan misleading the entire world. Exactly the angle we expected, the show is labeled as Satan's lies.

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Dateline and Perspective

by non_trias_theos in

two people can behold the same situation and conclude totally different things from their observations.

the pharisees saw jesus performing miracles and thought that he was empowered by beelzebub.

others watched the same thaumaturgic wonders and praised jesus as the son of god.

Steven Hassan was cut from Dateline

by DevonMcBride in

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i received the following e-mail from steven hassan.

it seems that he landed on the cutting floor at dateline.

devon .

I bet it's going to suck ass. Someone here said the Society will come out clean and the blame will go to the local elders. I agree. But hopefullly the borg will be more careful in the future and children will be safer in their JW prison.

I have just now been reading the posts by everyone who saw it. Now I am really excited to watch! (on the west coast)

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Get Dubs to watch Dateline with Reverse Psychology

by LizardSnot in

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i think the best way to get the dubs to watch dateline is to tell them not to :) dont people just love to do things they are told not to...i know i do :).

the following is a sample conversation that i might have with my mom.. "hello...mom?

hi...this is your son...you too (k)...hey i just wanted to let you know that dateline is airing a piece on jehovah's witnesses tonight...yeah i'm sure you dont want to watch it...you really need to listen to the organization because they know what is best for you...uh huh...no...no i probably shouldnt tell you what it is about...nahh, i dont want it to hurt your faith mom...yeah...uh huh...say, is it time for the nurse to bring your meds yet?....how is the food?...ok, i understand...yes mom...group therapy is important...just listen to them ok?...love you ...bye.. lizard

julien

What difference does it make if JWs watch the show? They will assume it is all Satan's lies anyway. Hopefully the show will help steer perspective members away though. Oh and it's a long shot but maybe the borg will fix their unethical policies.

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A Priori Proof For God's Existence

by non_trias_theos in

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there are some propositions that rational substances know are true but do not know why they are true.

this concept is illustrated when one reflects on problems associated with self-referentiality (godel's theorem).

physicists also work with a priori ideas that they take as givens, notions without which thought would be impossible.

julien

When did dunce-cap show up again?

Dawn: a good starting point is
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-mustread.html

Realist: Are you daft??? the Bible clearly proves that God created all the languages at the Tower of Babel. Before that there was only one language: Hebrew..

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Wired.com article on allegations against WTS!

by peterstride in

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hey, .

i looked quickly through the posted topics, and didn't notice anything on the wired.com article, so my apologies if someone has already posted the following link:... .

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,52484,00.html.

julien

Hopefully this will get on Slashdot!

I thought about that, but the story is rather too off topic for Slashdot I would say. Not really any 'technology' angle to it at all. Maybe Plastic or Kuro5hin would be better.

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Huge Ice Reservoirs Found on Mars!

by Nathan Natas in

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link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_2009000/2009318.stm (see the source for photos & add'l notes).

sunday, 26 may, 2002, 14:08 gmt 15:08 uk .

ice reservoirs found on mars.

julien

Someone else estimated the ice layer on Europa to be like 21 km or something .. So they might be rethinking the boring probe.

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Okay, This is a bit "weird"

by D8TA in

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i'm not a person who is what some may call a "nut".

i have a pretty firm grip on reality.

i don't post any "weird" posts, or go in to any flakey discussion or such.

julien

Based on the number of dreams we each have, and how many of us there are, and the number of target predictable 'events' that happen, it is to be expected that close matches will randomly occur.

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Okay, This is a bit "weird"

by D8TA in

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i'm not a person who is what some may call a "nut".

i have a pretty firm grip on reality.

i don't post any "weird" posts, or go in to any flakey discussion or such.

julien

Gee Whiz
Gates, William
Graphics Workstation

Several usenet posters claim to have early GWBASIC manuals which support the last choice.

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Why is there pain-suffering..Apologists view

by gumby in

here is an apologist view of why there is suffering.. answer c. just didn't cut it for me.. basically he is saying "everything god did turned out to sin"; eg.

especially when that potential goes bad in every case"?.

christian apologetics & research ministry www.carm.org.

julien

And yes Jehovah loves us even though we are dirt. Unconditional love which is the greatest love of all.

Utter bullshit. In what way is your monster-God showing unconditional love? When he wipes out 6 billion humans for not being JWs?? I'd call being a JW a 'condition'. Otherwise you've got Jehovah saying in effect, "OK you worldlings, I love you, and because of that I have to kill you. " Yeah right. Can't you see the baloney you are typing here? Use your head.