Posts by josephus

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Why Algebra is not for Christians

by metatron in

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while there are many popular customs in the world.

that appear innocent, mature christians always put.

jehovah's view of matters first in their lives.. in recent times, it has been reported that some.

josephus

ahh the temptation of algabra.

i cant tell you the times at night i prayed for help from jehovah to stop opening the books late at night.

regards

josephus

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LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

by josephus in

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it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

we see the same mistakes .

josephus

ranchette.

i am sorry if i upset you.

so far i have said...

jws are OFTEN victims of pheadophiles using the org to hurt children, as they do in the scouts,
and lots of other gullible trusting orgs.

and...

now i appreciate that this an emotive subject, but please remember i am not condoning this action.

and...

fight against child porn on the net if you want to help. but why waste time trying to damage an allready
criticaly ill l religion.

and...

Jw abusers will be caught as well by current systems as they will by attacking the watchtower.

and..

i do not dought the sincerity of silentlambs, but i think thier efforts would be better placed fighting ALL kinds
of child abuse.

NOW YOU SAID...

I can't believe you have just said what you have.
I hope this is just a case of a person(yourself)who has taken an issue and jumped to conclusions
without making sure they have all the facts. Because if you have been paying attention and already know all the facts on this, it would mean you are just as sick and wicked as the
molesters!

and...

I feel insulted by your words.

I really have to wonder who you really are after seeing this thread.

SCREW that i feel insulted by your words.

I understand its a tough subject but theres no excuse for saying that.

no regards

josephus

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LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

by josephus in

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friends

it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

we see the same mistakes .

josephus

hi tina

i am not blowing it off (bad way sentence to use when discussing child abuse)

i AM questioning why people try to make the wtbts seem somehow worse in a scandal that is global.

THIS TO VENICE IT.......

it may have seemed that i said child abuse was "a common mistake" i meant that the failure to do enough
to stop it is. allthough if you read any dictionary i would still be ok calling it that.

............

jws are OFTEN victims of pheadophiles using the org to hurt children, as they do in the scouts,
and lots of other gullible trusting orgs.

Again i stand by what ive said.

i wonder if the motivation for a lot of this stuff is pain because of our dealings with the org.

this is no attitude to have when your trying to be impartial.

regards

josephus

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LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

by josephus in

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friends

it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

we see the same mistakes .

josephus

whoa nelly!!!

you said....

ok first off the fact that you could even call child abuse a 'common mistake' unsettles
me to no end!!!! Ya murder is a common mistake too should we not try and do anything
about that either that's sick!!!

by saying common i simply ment "occuring frequently"

now i appreciate that this an emotive subject, but please remember i am not condoning this action.

to get to you point if i may.

you said....

I think you need to stop rationalizing, and compartmentalizing the JW's and see them for what they really are:

and

The will be silenced and the silentlambs will be given voice!!![/b]

ok if thats what you want, good luck.

i get pissed off with lots of things, but what i see us doing is wasting our energies.
if people are serious about this they should try and find out what the most productive
way is available to realise thier unselfish aims.

i wonder if its not just another knife to stick into a father we are all angry at.

sincerly

josephus

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LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

by josephus in

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friends

it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

we see the same mistakes .

josephus

hi jeffrey

i hate to miss any point so ill try again.

you know jws are wrong.

I know jws are wrong.

As the pathetic door to door work shows NEARLY THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THEY ARE WRONG.

at this moment however, children are being abused.

now pleeeeease dont fall out with me here buuuut,

who are you trying to help ?

the kids being hurt, or yourself. (if you are a rep from silent lambs. forgive me if your not)

your efforts are being used to malign an allready much disliked group, but are you efforts doing any good ?

fight against child porn on the net if you want to help. but why waste time trying to damage an allready
criticaly ill l religion.

i guess to get to my much hidden point. ill say this.

Jw abusers will be caught as well by current systems as they will by attacking the watchtower.

regards

josephus

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LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

by josephus in

jw
friends

it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

we see the same mistakes .

josephus

hi

it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.

now we hear about jw child abusers. this is sad.

VERY SAD.

however,

child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye. we see the same mistakes
being made by ALL KINDS OF GROUPS.

but we tell eachother stories about jw children being abused and cry for them, them we shake
our fists at the jws and call them awefull.

this seems to me to be the exjw equivalent of porno. we get bored talking about mexico, and ray franz, etc, etc, etc
so we latch on to a new cause. ta da !!!!!!! CHILD ABUSE.

does anybody think active jws will appreciate getting hit with things like this?
it will only convice them we are all apostates, and send them running home.

jws have enough wrong about them without attacking them for something nearly everybody
else has screwed up too.

do you think the church down your street hasnt done the same thing as the jws ?

i am angry at the witnesses, but i will not attack them for common mistakes.

THEY SEEM TO BE TRYING.

i hate to say it but,,,,,, fred hall was correct.

he said if jws dffd all the child abusers we would all complain about that.

i do not dought the sincerity of silentlambs, but i think thier efforts would be better placed fighting ALL kinds
of child abuse.

thoughtfully

josephus

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Todays my birthday!

by Doc_jedd in

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....yep im still in the borg but im celebrating anyway!

my family are just normal people(no dubs)they think its great.

just want to thank you all on this board for opening my eyes to the real troof!

josephus

warm heartiest cristian phillicitations.

enjoy your day bud.

regards

josephus

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THE BEST JW SITE EVER!!!

by josephus in

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pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.. its called disfellowshipped.com.. you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good).

i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site.

ive changed my mind.. please give it a look see.. regards.

josephus

ill try

http://www.disfellowshipped.com/Default.htm

here goes

jo

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THE BEST JW SITE EVER!!!

by josephus in

jw
friends

pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.. its called disfellowshipped.com.. you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good).

i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site.

ive changed my mind.. please give it a look see.. regards.

josephus

pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.

its called disfellowshipped.com.

you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good)

i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site
ive changed my mind.

please give it a look see.

regards

josephus

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DA or not DA or continue slipping away ?

by alliwannadoislive in

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for weeks now, i've been trying to put together a disassociation letter - incidently, it's you lot that have put me up to this - and it's nearing completion but i'm feeling nervous about sending it.

the fast approaching christmas celebration thingymajig is kinda egging me on as i want to blaze christmas lights everywhere and not feel nervous about the possibility of a visit from the po who drops the mags in to me fortnightly (i'm generally 'not in' ... ahem ...).

i would appreciate your for's and against's - to either convince me to go ahead, or to think again and stay the execution ...

josephus

hi please think carefully about this decision.

if you leave quietly, life IS easier.

if you write the letter, who are writing it for ?

i want to get some closure, but that is simply selfish.

by staying i have helped four others know the "truth about the truth".

and of course there is NO SCRIPTURAL REASON TO DO IT !!!!!1

by writing that letter you show them that you are still following thier rules.

anyway thats my two cents.

good luck , whatever you do.

regards

josephus