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  How Long Did It Actually Take You To Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  i started reading "apostate" books when i was a teen at the library.

  it was more curiousity than anything else.

  at home, i used to read all the old publications and i'd notice how beliefs had changed.. with ray franz's books that i read clandestinely, i started to realize the truth about "the truth".

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  As soon as I was able to leave my parents house and not have the cops bring me back.
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  It's one of those days....

  by Cagefighter in

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  work sucks.... it's slower than molasses in february.

  not making money.

  current girlfriend is pushing me away after disappearing all day yesterday and sunday.

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  Current gf and I have a more open relationship and no I haven't told her that I contacted x-gf. Current gf has major commitment issues. Constant occisaltion between letting me get close and pushing me away. It hurts but I am a guy so it's not supposed to affect me....

  Zoiks- Sounds like a plan...
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  It's one of those days....

  by Cagefighter in

  1. jw
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  work sucks.... it's slower than molasses in february.

  not making money.

  current girlfriend is pushing me away after disappearing all day yesterday and sunday.

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  Work sucks.... it's slower than molasses in February. Not making money. Current Girlfriend is pushing me away after disappearing all day yesterday and Sunday. X-girlfriend might let me date her again (she is being so-so)... I need some attention, money, and six pack of beer..... It's one of them days.
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  The one thing that might bring down the Watchtower

  by Cagefighter in

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  revealing the finances and financial position of those at the top.. look every organization makes money and it usually goes to the top.

  the brothers and sisters could not ignore the hypocrisy if exactly how much was floating around was revealed.

  think about it's like a corporation where only the ceo gets paid.

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  Elaine, do you only speak in qoutes or do you not answer direct questions?
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  Al and Tipper are breaking up!

  by Cagefighter in

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  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=os2zdcggcv-.

  i guess she got tired of him and his claims that he invented sex everytime they made love.....

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  There's only two people that really know why and it's their right to be with or not whomever they want to.
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  The one thing that might bring down the Watchtower

  by Cagefighter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  revealing the finances and financial position of those at the top.. look every organization makes money and it usually goes to the top.

  the brothers and sisters could not ignore the hypocrisy if exactly how much was floating around was revealed.

  think about it's like a corporation where only the ceo gets paid.

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  myelaine.. I got no clue what you mean by your post.

  I think there are two kinds of greed, hoarding greed and consumption greed. Who's to say the GB ain't got the hoarding greed. To cheap to spend it even if they could.
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  The one thing that might bring down the Watchtower

  by Cagefighter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  revealing the finances and financial position of those at the top.. look every organization makes money and it usually goes to the top.

  the brothers and sisters could not ignore the hypocrisy if exactly how much was floating around was revealed.

  think about it's like a corporation where only the ceo gets paid.

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  Cagefighter

  I found this from one of Lady Lee's old post:

  Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
  
  Pensylvania Reg. # 11-1857820
  
  Year Ended August 31, 1998

  BALANCE SHEET...............................1998 / 1997

  Assets

  Cash and short-term investments........$296,522,535 / 209,383,368
  
  Current receivables......................10,849,287 / 7,078,760
  
  Long-term receivables...................277,421,320 / 267,435,970
  
  Property and equipment..................120,697,680 / 120,547,679
  
  TOTAL ..................................705,130,822 / 604,445,777

  Liabilities

  Accounts payable & accrued liabilities...$2,414,924 / 794,524
  
  Conditional donations.....................7,489,654 / 8,743,636
  
  Long-term payables.......................61,002,396 / 37,503,266
  
  TOTAL LIABILITIES........................70,906,974 / 47,041,426

  NET ASSETS.............................$634,223,848 / 604,445,777

  COMBINED STATEMENT OF REVENUES AND CHANGES IN NET ASSETS

  Revenues

  Donations................................47,443,713 / 54,722,984
  
  Interest.................................24,925,594 / 20,504,081
  
  Kingdom Hall Assistance Fund..............3,218,791 / 3,900,595
  
  Royalties, Rent and Other.................3,519,062 / 2,928,113
  
  TOTAL REVENUES...........................79,107,160 / 82,055,773

  Expenses

  Kingdom Hall Assistance ..................2,123,945 / 2,485,514
  
  Relief Fund..................................21,182 / 170,507
  
  Convention Fund.................................430 / 0
  
  Administrative Services.....................142,106 / 14,304
  
  TOTAL EXPENSES............................2,287,663 / 2,670,325

  CHANGE IN NET ASSETS.....................76,819,497 / 79,385,448

  Net Assets At Beginning of Period.......557,404,351 / 469,616,477

  Prior period adjustment...........................0 / 8,402,426

  NET ASSETS AT END OF PERIOD............$634,223,848 / 557,404,351
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  The one thing that might bring down the Watchtower

  by Cagefighter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  revealing the finances and financial position of those at the top.. look every organization makes money and it usually goes to the top.

  the brothers and sisters could not ignore the hypocrisy if exactly how much was floating around was revealed.

  think about it's like a corporation where only the ceo gets paid.

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  Yes I do imagine there is a slush fund. There has to be.. On the surface it looks like a very no frills operation but if you think about they have no over head! No one gets paid. If it was a publishing company which it is run like how would it work.... Sales people (Pioneers those going in field service would get paid commission) Managers (Elders and CO's) would get a salary. Those in the factory (Bethel) would have to be paid a competive wage and benefits. There is none of that. So if you look at what they bring in it's not much for it's size but when u realize there is no overhead it's all going somewhere..... Do you think the GB and guys at the top don't have insurance or retirement benefits. I never heard this asked ever when I was in. With the bethelites being cut and sent on the street don't u think this would be a burr in the sadle for many?
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  Al and Tipper are breaking up!

  by Cagefighter in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=os2zdcggcv-.

  i guess she got tired of him and his claims that he invented sex everytime they made love.....

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  Cagefighter

  During the October 3, 2000 Presidential debate, Gore mentioned 79-year-old Winifred Skinner, who has become the campaign's mascot for his Medicare prescription-drug program. "In order to pay for her prescription drug benefits, she has to go out seven days a week, several hours a day, picking up cans ," Gore said. "She came all the way from Iowa in a Winnebago with her poodle in order to attend here tonight."
  However, Skinner doesn't need to collect cans for her medication. Her son, Earl King, who formerly owned his own business and now lives on an 80-acre ranch and describes his lifestyle as "comfortable," has offered repeatedly to help her make ends meet. She continually declines his offers. In addition, the Winnebago Gore referred to, as well as the gas, was paid for by the Gore campaign. Five campaign workers accompanied Skinner, a longtime Democrat and former union organizer.
  (Source: New York Post, October 5, 2000 "Gore's nose is growing again"; Washington Post, October 5, 2000, page A20)
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  Al and Tipper are breaking up!

  by Cagefighter in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=os2zdcggcv-.

  i guess she got tired of him and his claims that he invented sex everytime they made love.....

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  I was there with James Lee Witt...oh, wait....

  In the Presidential debate on October 3, 2000, Governor George W. Bush gave credit to the Federal Emergency Management Service (FEMA) for their work in Texas during fires and floods in Parker County. Vice President Al Gore said "I accompanied James Lee Witt down to Texas when those fires broke out." Carl Cameron, of Fox News first reported that Gore had not, in fact, been to Texas with Witt to look at the damage in Parker County. Gore WAS in Texas, but FEMA officials said Witt never went to Texas to deal with the 1998 fires.