Something that was not mentioned:Paragraph 15 says " Yet, when the elders appointed to examine the case determine, in line with Jehovah's direction, that a repentant sinner ought to be readmitted to the congregation, it indicates that he has been forgiven by Jehovah".Now read Watchtower 2/15/1978 pg. 21 par.1.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-08-10 WT Study (BUILDING UP)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 08-08-10 wt study (june 15, 2010, pages 10-14)(building up).
review comments will be in red or headed by comments.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
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Change in meeting attendance procedure - can't figure out why though
by sir82 inper a recent letter to elders:.
beginning september 1, there will be a change to the way attendance is recorded at congregation meetings.. currently, attendance is counted at 4 of the 5 meeting (public talk, wt study, congregation "bible" study, and service meeting).. but after sept. 1, meeting attendance will only be taken at 2 of the meetings - during the "first quarter" of the wt study, and also at the cbs.. .
no reason in given for the change in the letter, and i can't figure out why myself.. the numbers are not published anywhere - the only "official" record is a 6 month average the co puts together during his visit.. why request less information from the congregations, especially when it "costs" nothing to accumulate it in the first place?
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XPeterX
I didn't understand what is going to change.Can someone explain it in a few words please?
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Circuit Overseers
by XPeterX inthey came to greece and gave a talk.i don't remember their names but they were definately americans and the one italian something i think.the one was about 50-55 years old and the other guy was about 70+ bald and had some tufts of hair on his head and his voice was very strict,robotic,tending to be high pitched and the latter told us that we have to respect elders and the org's rules without questioning.they were not gb members but they are something like the touring gb.i remember faces.if you have pics post them.does anyone here know them?are there many cos?.
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is mercante the old man?coz the other is younger.157 times?wow
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Circuit Overseers
by XPeterX inthey came to greece and gave a talk.i don't remember their names but they were definately americans and the one italian something i think.the one was about 50-55 years old and the other guy was about 70+ bald and had some tufts of hair on his head and his voice was very strict,robotic,tending to be high pitched and the latter told us that we have to respect elders and the org's rules without questioning.they were not gb members but they are something like the touring gb.i remember faces.if you have pics post them.does anyone here know them?are there many cos?.
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Zone overseers yeah!I found their names!Gary Bro (not sure how to spell it) and David Mercantes (or mercandes) they are something like assistant managers of the G.B i mean very close to them.Does anyone here know them?
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Call from elder
by XPeterX ini received a call a few hours ago from an elder.of course he didn't call me to ask how i was or if i needed help.instead he told me that "the youth and some older brothers" of my congregation will gather (at another elder's house,you see 2 elders to "get a hold of the situation") to talk about the "internet,facebook etc dangers".i told him that i will go.hmmm...it's going to be an interesting conversation..
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XPeterX
Went there.The usual stuff
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Call from elder
by XPeterX ini received a call a few hours ago from an elder.of course he didn't call me to ask how i was or if i needed help.instead he told me that "the youth and some older brothers" of my congregation will gather (at another elder's house,you see 2 elders to "get a hold of the situation") to talk about the "internet,facebook etc dangers".i told him that i will go.hmmm...it's going to be an interesting conversation..
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XPeterX
Asked some young people in the meeting today.They were informed too and I noticed some irony in their comments as regards this meeting.
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Mr. Flipper Talks with Bethel Legal Service Desk Rep About JW Child Abuse
by flipper inwell - i had been wanting to do this for a long time , to question a legal department representative at bethel about the child abuse settlements and jw child abuse, since last year when the news came out about it.
especially since my dad , an elder for years was never aware of it and has on his own taken steps to see that families with children are informed if a former pedophile is in their congregation.
i was curious as to what the current views and policies in place are .
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XPeterX
So true...Mr. Flipper correctly stated in another topic that the elders should check the criminal record of anyone who wants to be a JW.What happens if the one is a murderer?A rapist?A child molester?And what happens if he's motives are mean?DAMN
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Call from elder
by XPeterX ini received a call a few hours ago from an elder.of course he didn't call me to ask how i was or if i needed help.instead he told me that "the youth and some older brothers" of my congregation will gather (at another elder's house,you see 2 elders to "get a hold of the situation") to talk about the "internet,facebook etc dangers".i told him that i will go.hmmm...it's going to be an interesting conversation..
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XPeterX
I am going to tell them: "Did you call 20+ year old MEN here to warn us about this?We are old enough to decide for ourselves."
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Call from elder
by XPeterX ini received a call a few hours ago from an elder.of course he didn't call me to ask how i was or if i needed help.instead he told me that "the youth and some older brothers" of my congregation will gather (at another elder's house,you see 2 elders to "get a hold of the situation") to talk about the "internet,facebook etc dangers".i told him that i will go.hmmm...it's going to be an interesting conversation..
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XPeterX
Meeting is about this matter but also to 'enjoy christian company'.I know it's a set up by the elders they try to make everyone feel guilty for being on facebook but I ain't gonna feel sh*t dude.
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Call from elder
by XPeterX ini received a call a few hours ago from an elder.of course he didn't call me to ask how i was or if i needed help.instead he told me that "the youth and some older brothers" of my congregation will gather (at another elder's house,you see 2 elders to "get a hold of the situation") to talk about the "internet,facebook etc dangers".i told him that i will go.hmmm...it's going to be an interesting conversation..
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XPeterX
Yes Blondie I live with my parents.Damn I am almost 20 why should they call my parents?I will go and just listen what they say.If they ask my opinion I will say:"I am not going to say anything since I CANNOT change anything about it.If someone really wants to find a gf/bf,or leave the Org. he won't use the Internet or Facebook."