As is mine, Londo. The gist of the lawsuit is that a large and diverse group of people are all involved in a massive conspiracy against this one guy, Cobb. This group of conspirators includes numerous JWs, the WTS, members of his family including his ex-wife, police officers, judges, court clerks and deputies, attorneys at large law firms, private investigators, managers at the Cisco corporation, investment banks and others who I am surely forgetting.
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Watchtower Society Scandal Involving Menlo Park Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks injw leaks has published court documents relating to the removal of the body of elders in the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses (california, usa), the seizing of control of millions of dollars of congregation assets by watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and the related rico enterprise civil lawsuit against jpmorgan chase bank et al.. backstory: in 2010 the watchtower bible and tract society of new york seized control of millions of dollars of prime real estate assets belonging to the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses, california, by forcefully removing the body of elders and dispersing the congregation.
money invested by the congregation was also removed from their bank accounts by watchtower representatives.
those within the congregation that objected to this were threatened with disfellowshipping.
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Watchtower Society Scandal Involving Menlo Park Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks injw leaks has published court documents relating to the removal of the body of elders in the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses (california, usa), the seizing of control of millions of dollars of congregation assets by watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and the related rico enterprise civil lawsuit against jpmorgan chase bank et al.. backstory: in 2010 the watchtower bible and tract society of new york seized control of millions of dollars of prime real estate assets belonging to the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses, california, by forcefully removing the body of elders and dispersing the congregation.
money invested by the congregation was also removed from their bank accounts by watchtower representatives.
those within the congregation that objected to this were threatened with disfellowshipping.
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Chaserious
The 95-page complaint filed by Cobb in the 13-1955 case, which was filed on 4/29/13, gives the "back story" on anything and everything, and then some. If jwleaks or anyone else wants a copy of the complaint or the motions to dismiss that the 9/23/13 filing responds to, I can easily download them.
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Watchtower Society Scandal Involving Menlo Park Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks injw leaks has published court documents relating to the removal of the body of elders in the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses (california, usa), the seizing of control of millions of dollars of congregation assets by watchtower bible and tract society of new york, and the related rico enterprise civil lawsuit against jpmorgan chase bank et al.. backstory: in 2010 the watchtower bible and tract society of new york seized control of millions of dollars of prime real estate assets belonging to the menlo park congregation of jehovahs witnesses, california, by forcefully removing the body of elders and dispersing the congregation.
money invested by the congregation was also removed from their bank accounts by watchtower representatives.
those within the congregation that objected to this were threatened with disfellowshipping.
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Thanks. Just noting that it is hard to make any sense of the Sept. 23 opposition to a motion to dismiss without copies of the motion or motions that it is opposing.
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Individual Governing Body Members and Lawsuits
by jw07 ini don't know if this has any legal implications:.
since the identities of the individual members of the governing body have been publicly confirmed (not that we didn't know that before) can that open the way for direct lawsuits to be leveled against members?.
for instance are there any laws in the usa that would open the way for geoffrey jackson to be targetted by the lawsuits from child abuse or no blood transfusion deaths?.
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Chaserious
Unless someone could show that specific wrongful actions of an individual GB member caused them harm, this kind of thing wouldn't even get off the ground. Even if it did, what would be the point? A judgment against Geoffrey Jackson or whoever is less valuable than a judgment against the Watchtower society. If it could be collected at all, it would be paid out of the WT's pockets anyway.
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The Lawsuit Landslide: Irwin Zalkin representing ELEVEN child abuse victims against Watchtower
by cedars inmany of you will be interested to know that irwin zalkin now has 11 lawsuits against watchtower at various stages.. these can be summarized as follows.... j.l.
shocked by the lack of action, the victims mother immediately left the congregation with her son.
by this stage campos was a known predator with complaints having been made to the elders at linda vista spanish, playa pacifica spanish and the watchtower dating back to 1982.elizabeth mcfarland ohio a former ministerial servant named scott silvasy sexually molested elizabeth when she was a child through her early teens.
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Chaserious
How many $30mil upheld verdicts do you need to make the bean counters very uncomfortable...
As encouraging as it is to see victims come forward, I don't see this as a "death blow" either. The Conti verdict has been reduced to about $10 million, so that's the worst case scenario for the WTS if they lose their appeal, plus maybe a couple million in interest and legal costs. There is no reason to believe that every case is going to cost nearly that much. Jury verdicts are wildly unpredictable. The Economist reported that abuse cases cost the Catholic Church over $1 mil each. I don't see any reason to think comparable cases will cost the WTS ten times (or 30 times) as much). On one hand, juries might be less sympathetic to the WTS because it's viewed as a fringe religion/cult. But on the other hand, the lawyers have an easier case to make against the Catholic Church in that the priest abusers were paid employees of the church, which isn't the case with any of these WTS cases.
The larger positive that might come out of these awful instances of abuse is public awareness, and maybe more internal awareness, about the failings of the WT organization to protect its children.
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At what age did you begin retirement planning
by Zoos ini am 46. i just started a 401k three months ago.. .
not long ago, while i was still "in", the topic of 401s came up between me and a coworker.
he asked if i was plugged in and i said, "no.
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Chaserious
I started my 401k when I was 22 and still in. It just seemed like giving away free money not to contribute when my employer at the time would match what I put in. Still, 46 is better than never. There are still a lot of people who rely on just SS & medicare.
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we haven't heard from 3 members
by gma-tired2 ini havent read any posts from gojira, newly enlightened, and brother of hawk.
i hope they are well just know they have been unusually quiet..
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Chaserious
Their activity seems to have dropped off right after Brother of the Hawk started his last thread, which wasn't received very well here. Maybe it has something to do with that. I believe they are all family, right?
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Justitia passes bar!!!
by crmsicl inyay...my awesome friend justitia just found out last night she passed the bar exam.
regardless of how you may feel about her you gotta admit that is an accomplishment..
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Chaserious
Congrats
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What is new about the Candace Conti trial
by smiddy inwhats new in the latest developments.
smiddy.
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Chaserious
Smiddy, it's true there are a lot of things that are fair to criticize about the U.S. legal system. But one thing that I think it's important to remember is that the U.S. system is far more friendly to private tort plaintiffs seeking money damages than just about anywhere else. I think it's safe to say that if these facts were replicated in any other major country, Ms. Conti would have never been awarded a judgment of millions of dollars against the WTS in the first place. One of the tradeoffs that plaintiffs give up in exchange for broad rights to sue is that defendants also have broad rights to appeal.
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What is new about the Candace Conti trial
by smiddy inwhats new in the latest developments.
smiddy.
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Chaserious
There will probably be an opinion released by the California appeals court sometime in the Spring. That may or may not be a conclusion. It is possible that the losing party could appeal to be heard by the CA Supreme Court, who may or may not agree to hear the case. It's also possible that the appeals court could order a new trial, which could take some time to occur, and then THAT trial could be subject to appeal. Or the decision of this appeals court could be the last word. No one really knows right now.