It should be under the SPIN section. Just like all the books should be of the people that endlessly criticize her. H. Clinton is not the antichrist and I have never quite understood why people hate her so much. I disagree with most of her politics but I don’t hate her. It seems that some people just despise her existence. As for her book I am sure there will be ‘political’ answers to some of the hard question that will play ‘fast and loose’ with the truth ie. spin. But in reality that is politics, and people have to be smart enough to see past that. I think its also important to note much of the spin is involving issues that are no ones business anyway.
Terry
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30Hillary Clintons new book
by freedom96 in.
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will it be found under the fiction or non-fiction section?
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Will America Ever Be Able To Beat England?
by Englishman init seems that americans are keen to get amongst the big boys when it comes to soccer skills as can be seen from the embedded page futher down this post.. however, i have a sneaky feeling that americans might well be lacking in the genetic skills department when it comes to actually understanding the finer points of the noble art of soccer, let alone having any natural aptitude for the game.
this is a an excerpt from a book by bill bryson, a very popular american author who keeps us brits amused for hours with his experiences of living in england.this is bill's account of his first ever attempt to play soccer:.
"i had watched football (soccer) on tv and i thought i had a fair idea of what was required, so when one of the team lofted a ball in my direction, i decided to flick it casually into the net with my head, the way i had seen kevin keegan do it.
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In all reality in about 20 years, American soccer will probably be nearly as good as the rest of the world. To make an excellent team in any sport you need a system. A system that starts with kiddy leagues training young ones in the basic skills of the game. After the kiddy leagues you need high school and college level competition to continue teaching skills and finding the real talented players.
When I was in high school 13 years ago in America, no high schools had soccer, and the kiddy leagues only existed in some big cities. Now almost all high schools have teams and kiddy leagues exist in nearly every town.
The point is America is developing a system that will eventually lead to teams that are more competitive. The only thing that will hinder this is that currently all the best athletes play football, baseball, or basketball. So the kids playing soccer tend to not be the best athletes out of the population, but we are talking about soccer so this should not matter.
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Will America Ever Be Able To Beat England?
by Englishman init seems that americans are keen to get amongst the big boys when it comes to soccer skills as can be seen from the embedded page futher down this post.. however, i have a sneaky feeling that americans might well be lacking in the genetic skills department when it comes to actually understanding the finer points of the noble art of soccer, let alone having any natural aptitude for the game.
this is a an excerpt from a book by bill bryson, a very popular american author who keeps us brits amused for hours with his experiences of living in england.this is bill's account of his first ever attempt to play soccer:.
"i had watched football (soccer) on tv and i thought i had a fair idea of what was required, so when one of the team lofted a ball in my direction, i decided to flick it casually into the net with my head, the way i had seen kevin keegan do it.
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Or on the other hand we could do what we always do, let all the good soccor players that live in sh*thole countries immigrate here and play for us.
Terry
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Will America Ever Be Able To Beat England?
by Englishman init seems that americans are keen to get amongst the big boys when it comes to soccer skills as can be seen from the embedded page futher down this post.. however, i have a sneaky feeling that americans might well be lacking in the genetic skills department when it comes to actually understanding the finer points of the noble art of soccer, let alone having any natural aptitude for the game.
this is a an excerpt from a book by bill bryson, a very popular american author who keeps us brits amused for hours with his experiences of living in england.this is bill's account of his first ever attempt to play soccer:.
"i had watched football (soccer) on tv and i thought i had a fair idea of what was required, so when one of the team lofted a ball in my direction, i decided to flick it casually into the net with my head, the way i had seen kevin keegan do it.
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I think it will be at least a generation before American soccor is up to world standards. I dont think you people in Europe understand how much we HATE soccor here. Some sports news shows will not even cover it and dont consider it a sport.
Terry
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One thing about Clinton...
by Abaddon in... was that no one was ever accused of being unpatriotic if they hammered him.
now, of course, w might be a paragon of virtue in comparison, at least with regard to oral sex in the oval office, but many people who have criticised aspects of his presidency have had all sorts of accusations rained down upon their heads.
i found this article an interesting discussion.
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I did not agree with the Clinton impeachment but you all should try to get it straight. What Clinton was impeached for was not lying it was for perjery. No stay with me here, lying and perjery are not the same thing. One is different that the other, really its true.
Also if Bush lied about WMD so did:
Clinton
Gore
Most of the US congress
Blair
Saddam Hussien
Hans Blix
The government of Iran
and a cast of 1000's more
or maybe Bush did not lie and the WMD just have not been found yet. You decide which is more likey.
Terry
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One thing about Clinton...
by Abaddon in... was that no one was ever accused of being unpatriotic if they hammered him.
now, of course, w might be a paragon of virtue in comparison, at least with regard to oral sex in the oval office, but many people who have criticised aspects of his presidency have had all sorts of accusations rained down upon their heads.
i found this article an interesting discussion.
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jelly
Jeez, Jelly and Yerusalyim!!! Where do you get your distorted facts from? Do you have a specific scientific poll at your ready that no one else is privy to?
First, I voted for Clinton and I am by no means a mindless shrill. Unlike many (approx 95%) of the posters on this board.
FACTS:
- The majority of Americans do support Bush on the war with Iraq
- The majority of Americans do not feel their rights are being curtailed in any real maner.
I would be curious to hear exactly what rights you have that have been limited. What could you do before 9/11 that you cant do now? Nothing is the answer. But reality will never impede on your self rightous rant.
Terry
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One thing about Clinton...
by Abaddon in... was that no one was ever accused of being unpatriotic if they hammered him.
now, of course, w might be a paragon of virtue in comparison, at least with regard to oral sex in the oval office, but many people who have criticised aspects of his presidency have had all sorts of accusations rained down upon their heads.
i found this article an interesting discussion.
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A little more retardation from Florida, now I know why these people couldnt vote correctly.
We won't even question economic policies that have created a weak dollar, a soft stock market and creeping unemployment.
• We won't explore the logic of disarming the newly freed Iraqi people, while backing a resumption of sales of assault-style weapons at home.
• We won't evaluate the ludicrous notion that Haitian asylum seekers must be imprisoned as a matter of national security, even as migrants from communist Cuba are allowed to swim ashore and go free.
- I am in the minority here but I have never understood the value of a stong dollar. I weak dollar makes our exports more attractive and in an economic downturn will spur manufacturing(sp? to late to spell correctly) output. The stock market was overvalued by about 20% now its undervalued by about 20%, things like these happen there is an emotional human element to the stock market and lots of uncertainty (caused by things like airplanes hitting buildings, anthrax, etc) depress the stock market. It will eventually right itself.
- Do you think if assualt rifles were banned it would stop murders? We dont explore that logic because there is no connection to be made.
- I agree we should send the Cubans home also, but of course this is not what the author wants me to get from his point.
Terry
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One thing about Clinton...
by Abaddon in... was that no one was ever accused of being unpatriotic if they hammered him.
now, of course, w might be a paragon of virtue in comparison, at least with regard to oral sex in the oval office, but many people who have criticised aspects of his presidency have had all sorts of accusations rained down upon their heads.
i found this article an interesting discussion.
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jelly
Let me try again.
The economy stagnated during his watch;
• He turned a projected federal surplus of $5.7 trillion over the next decade into a projected $2 trillion deficit, fueled by huge tax cuts that enriched the wealthy and failed to stimulate the economy;
• He proposed and won more tax cuts, though most economists warned that they wouldn't likely create many jobs;
• His administration trimmed basic domestic civil rights, including the right to privacy, counsel and habeas corpus;
• He openly scorned relations with traditional allies and potential friends worldwide;
• He launched a war against a sovereign nation without establishing why it was urgent and necessary, and without achieving any of his stated goals for attacking, except regime change;
• The company once headed by his vice president landed a no-bid contract in Iraq far more lucrative than originally revealed?
- The economy began to stagnate with clinton, its a matter of record. Bush has increased spending but most rational individuals can see that the terrorist attacks drove this.
- The tax cut is a bad idea imho.
- My civil rights have not been curtailed, and neither have yours in any real way. What you afraid the FBI is going to look at you library card. LMAO
- Some of our traditional 'allies' are fu*k tards and should be scorned
- Most Americans think the war on Iraq was good and necessary, I am one of them
- Does Chaney own in stock in HB, are you impling that HB should have not been allowed to gain the contracts simply because Chaney worked for them. Name another company that is as suited for the task as HB.
But after you remove these falsehoods the rest of the article is pretty good.
Terry
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One thing about Clinton...
by Abaddon in... was that no one was ever accused of being unpatriotic if they hammered him.
now, of course, w might be a paragon of virtue in comparison, at least with regard to oral sex in the oval office, but many people who have criticised aspects of his presidency have had all sorts of accusations rained down upon their heads.
i found this article an interesting discussion.
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jelly
- The economy started to go south on clinton's watch and most Americans fell some of the problems of the economy were out of bush's hands
- Most Americans dont feel their rights are being curtailed.
- Most Americans feel the war against Iraq was necessary and supported the president
But once you remove these falsehoods from the article the rest of its ok.
Terry
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Last night I asked about getting reinstated...
by Gadget inafter the meeting last night italked to some of the elders in the car park, and asked what more i neede to do to get reinstated.
they commended me on the things i've been doing (?
), and said the main point for reinstating would be how much contact i've been having with my fiance, who's still a wittness.
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May advice would be to do one of the following:
- Just get married, then they cant prevent you from seeing you wife. She might get DF'd but should could 'repent' and be back in within 6 months then fade
- Move to a different city, continue to see you wife but be sneaky about it, ' repent' get reinstated, get married and fade.
Remeber elders have no right to control you or your wife, an since they use coersion do not deserve the truth. You have to be wise and that means dishonest when dealing with men like these in situations like this.
Good luck.
Terry