Posts by EndofMysteries

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Evolution: The Deal Breaker

by Hadriel in

first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

EndofMysteries

Let's put forth the (very simplistic) hypothesis that it requires a lightning bolt to a primordial lake to start off the first. In our labs we do not have the space for a lake nor is anyone in the world capable of generating full-force lightning (we don't even fully understand the phenomenon). That is the difficulty right now in evolutionary theory - we have all the pieces and the puzzle is almost complete, but it's missing some things in the middle, namely, the absolute certainty of the genesis of life (we have an idea of where to look) as well as (on the other end) how to shape our future evolution (although we've been doing that inadvertently for the last 10,000 years or so).

Scientists can easily create an airtight room, extract all the oxygen from it, have only chemicals and gases thought to have been around during that time, and electricity can be surged into the pool in that room.

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Evolution: The Deal Breaker

by Hadriel in

first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

EndofMysteries

You think that potentially finding out that an alien life form was responsible for creating life here on earth will solve the question of the origin of life? Isn't it obvious that if that was the case, then the next logical question would be "who created them" and so on?

It would solve the origin of OUR life, but not all life. But dismissing it no matter what and never attempting to check if that is a possibility if it actually is will ensure we never get the answers. Let's say we create an artificial/robotic life form. Thousands or millions of years from now the Earth is a desolate waste but this artificial robotic lifeform were made to replicate and create new ones as older ones eventually died. They can dismiss that another life form ever created and became their origin and try to forever figure out how metals and circuit boards evolved from something floating around on the desolate Earth but the fact would be that a biological lifeform had existed and created them long ago. If they figure that out, they found the truth of their origin. They still won't know where life originated but they'd be a step closer.

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Evolution: The Deal Breaker

by Hadriel in

first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

EndofMysteries

Inserting an "intelligent designer" guarantees we will never find the real answer.

Absolute hogwash. Since intelligent designer does not have to mean supernatural, then if another biological life form was the intelligent designer then that gives a good chance of the process eventually being discovered and able to replicate. If this never happens, then more than likely a supernatural designer, other dimension, or our universe is a simulation of some sort. Random or biological design will be able to be replicated at some point.

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Evolution: The Deal Breaker

by Hadriel in

first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

EndofMysteries

Because once life has got established and evolved to exploit every possible niche the conditions that allowed it to get started - probably in alkaline vents under the ocean - no longer exist.

If it could happen by random chance, then scientists should easily be able to put this 'soup' together.

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Evolution: The Deal Breaker

by Hadriel in

first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

EndofMysteries

There is absolutely no evidence to justify that claim.
It is a non-answer.

DNA is found in all life forms. (Viruses for debate if one considers them a life form). DNA works similar to computer programming code. As in the OP post, what came first the chicken or the egg...intelligent life using DNA as a programming code for all life forms on Earth.

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Evolution: The Deal Breaker

by Hadriel in

first off i do believe there are some evidences of evolution or i should probably say adaptation.

i do believe this exists in various forms.. however the deal breaker for me with evolution is the chick or egg problem.

there are tons of theories that get passed around as proof of evolution however these are usually examples much further down the evolutionary chain.. what i mean is let's start at the beginning!

EndofMysteries

I agree with you and that is also my question. There is no answer though. So some will believe that it just randomly happened somehow and others see it as proof of a creator.

I see it as intelligent design but the fallacy of those who oppose that is they assume that admitting or believing in intelligent design means full acceptance of a religion or God belief. It could be that another advanced biological life form designed it and they are no longer around now, we are left trying to figure out our origins and what purpose of life. For now I believe we were designed, DNA as a coding language to design much life, and designed in a way to adapt and evolve. Beyond that, no idea atm. Who did it, why, if this is it, or an afterlife, etc.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

EndofMysteries

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What does the rise of Donald Trump tell us about the USA?

by fulltimestudent in

i thank one of my former lecturers for drawing my attention to this overview.. after some 100 years, living out its "manifest destiny" dream, as the hegemon of the world, what has this 'dream' done to/for the usa?

the approaching presidential election provides an opportunity to examine this question.. and what of all the appendage organisations (like the wts) that rode across the world on the hegemon's coattails?.

the answer may be here: http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism.

EndofMysteries

In line w/ Terry's post, look at this one by the nice BLM people.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/16/anti-israel-black-lives-matter-activist-is-hell-bent-on-inciting-riots-over-trump/

“Young niggas such as myself are fully hell bent on inciting riots,” and Donald Trump’s election in November would mean there “aint no more rules,” say messages on Twitter to “white people,” from Tef Poe, a noted pro-Palestinian rap-artist and Black Lives Matter activist.

If Trump wins, they say they'll incite riots everywhere,etc. They say they've been too nice. This is what happens when liberals allow things like the BLM lie that blacks are systematically oppressed to go on, and that dumb politically correct notion. Their problems are not due to having 75% no fathers in the family, not due to the culture of attacking and shunning those who want to do good in school as being 'too white', not due to attacking and being aggressive to police, not due to committing more than 50% of crime though being 10% of population, not due to no snitching and letting crime run rampant. Nope, it's all due to systematic racism. Bernie wants to give them all free room and board for college. Restore voting to those who have felony records. Give them minimum $15 an hour +. It'll come down to either GIVE them everything or they threaten to riot and start race war.

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These are Bernie supporters waiting for their free stuff

by Morning Warship in

jw
friends

garbage removed.

EndofMysteries

In other news, Bernie and other politicans that support and pretend the BLM claims are true are continuing to contribute to domestic terrorism. The liberal media wants to pretend that nobody knows why this happened and may never find out why.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/03/15/suspects-brothers-accused-of-recording-fatal-police-shooting-in-maryland/

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I no longer feel smart as a JW, I feel dumb...

by thedepressedsoul in

i don't want anyone to take this the wrong way but i use to at least feel smart as a jw.

when i went to thursday night meetings, i at least felt like i was a student, that i was learning how to speak publicly, i could prepare my own comments, i could answer points that i learned from the weekly bible reading.

i even feel like an "idiot" studying for the meetings.

EndofMysteries

we're being taught not to get into any doctrine issues......In door to door if someone argues, we just leave now.

Pretty soon it will be a DFing matter if you get into doctrine or discuss anything if anybody brings up opposition or counter argument. The GB will say something about how satan has become super smart and has taught all the worldly people lies so powerful if anybody has a discussion with one who aren't sheep bible students who will unquestionably accept anything they are told, then it's as bad as talking to an apostate, etc. They are getting desperate since anybody who googles jehovah's witnesses will know more then members themselves.