I think probably stolen account, I had a good one, I setup a sting operation. They put 500.00 into my paypal account. I was tempted to cash it out, but figured was probably from a stolen card. Anyway, the payment was from some US state, and I was supposed to keep a percentage and send money order to some address in UK. I got it all setup, and the FBI nor UK were interested. I also found this was going on for over a year, so they probably scammed a lot of people. I couldn't believe nobody did anything. I had this on a silver platter for them. I guess people who only hurt themselves (drugs) or whatever is more important then those who hurt others.
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...I just keep getting more Money..$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...
by OUTLAW ini can`t believe how many people send me email to tell me... i`ve won money..i have a huge inheritance..jesus told them to email me,so i could help them with millions of dollars ect..ect..ect... in the last 2 days jesus has sent 3 people..lol!!.
this next one made me laugh so i thought i`d share it... bank of east asiachai wan - chai wan road.
g/f, 345 chai wan road, chai wan telephone: +852-819-909-62 attention: beneficiary this is to officially inform you that we have verified your contract inheritance file presently on my desk, and i found out that you have not received your payment due to your lack of co-operation and not fulfilling the obligations giving to you in respect to your contract /inheritance payment.
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A few questions about Adam and Eve, Death, and the Resurrection
by alfmel ini am not a jw, but they often come to my door.
i listen to them, formulate questions, but they can never answer them to my satisfaction.
that's why i've never become a jw.
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Give God a chance to show you the answers, seek them out, may take a long time, you may learn far more then looking to others to tell you. When your finding answers, then perhaps others may serve as confirmation.
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Additiion to Christ's invisible presence!
by wannabe inaddition to christ's invisible presence!.
" {john 17:4 esv}.
i have conquered the world.
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Uh, you posted this same thing few days ago.
You believe their calculations are correct, yet wrong. Well, their calcuations are wrong as well. USING their logic, they are off by 30 years, and thats using the date they used. It would land on 1944, I believe the logic they used to even get to 1914 is wrong, it's even against the logic Russell used.
Yet a lot more significant things in bible prophecy occurred in 1944, I won't go there.
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Garden of Eden, Tree of Knowledge, not quite literal
by EndofMysteries ini share this hoping motivates some into some bible reading, and stimulating your critical thinking.
is the concept of the tree of life and knowledge of good and bad anywhere in the bible?
read ezekiel chapter 31, the entire chapter.
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cult classic - by 'NOT' knowing the answer to that question, and not being clear, in what way is your life different then if there was a clear cut path? So one, his reason may involve allowing one to live their life a certain way, to present it to them and either as a lesson or judgement.
Also, if it was so clear, would you be putting your faith in 'men' who showed you? It could be, that the only way to really understand, is not through men, but putting your faith in him, and your mind being opened up to deeper understanding.
There are MANY logical explanations.
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Garden of Eden, Tree of Knowledge, not quite literal
by EndofMysteries ini share this hoping motivates some into some bible reading, and stimulating your critical thinking.
is the concept of the tree of life and knowledge of good and bad anywhere in the bible?
read ezekiel chapter 31, the entire chapter.
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O and Tec, yes the story as literal or symbolic unless in a completely different way does not loose it's meaning. Which was what my 2nd original reply was about. Whether eating fruit was sin, or taking in knowledge. Or even if not. Lets say drinking soda is a sin, your whole life you don't know that, and it's not in your thoughts of doing wrong. At the most would be a sin of ignorance. Now, your shown that it IS a sin, then each time you drink it, you sin. That's what Romans 14:13, 1 Cor 15:56 are talking about.
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Garden of Eden, Tree of Knowledge, not quite literal
by EndofMysteries ini share this hoping motivates some into some bible reading, and stimulating your critical thinking.
is the concept of the tree of life and knowledge of good and bad anywhere in the bible?
read ezekiel chapter 31, the entire chapter.
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I did not quote it, but yes, in EZEKIEL 31, it makes garden of Eden appear symbolic............and then those other scriptures I quoted seem to agree,
Ezekiel 31:8 [Other] cedars were no match for it in the GARDEN OF GOD. As for juniper trees, they bore no resemblance as respects its boughs. And plane trees themselves did not prove to be like it in branches. No [other] TREE IN THE GARDEN OF GOD resembled it in its prettiness. 9 Pretty is the way that I made it in the abundance of its foliage, and all the [other] TREES OF EDEN that were in the garden of the [true] God kept envying it.’
10 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘For the reason that you became high in stature, so that it put its treetop even among the clouds and its heart became exalted because of its height, 11 I shall also give it into the hand of the despot of [the] nations. Without fail he will act against it. According to its wickedness I will drive it out. 12 And strangers, the tyrants of [the] nations, will cut it down, and people will abandon it upon the mountains; and in all the valleys its foliage will certainly fall, and its branches will be broken among all the streambeds of the earth. And out from its shade all the peoples of the earth will come down and abandon it. 13 Upon its fallen trunk all the flying creatures of the heavens will reside, and upon its branches there will certainly come to be all the wild beasts of the field; 14 to the end that none of the watered trees may become high in their stature, or put their treetops even among the clouds, and that none drinking water may stand up against them in their height, for they will certainly all of them BE GIVEN TO DEATH, to the LAND DOWN BELOW, in the MIDST OF THE SONS OF MANKIND, to those going down into the pit.’
15 “This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘On the day of its going down to She′ol I shall certainly cause a mourning. On its account I will cover the watery deep, that I may hold back its streams and [that] the many waters may be restrained; and on its account I shall darken Leb′a·non, and on its account the trees of the field will all swoon away. 16 At the sound of its downfall I shall certainly cause nations to rock when I bring it down to She′ol with those going down into the pit, and in THE LAND DOWN BELOW ALL THE TREES OF E'DEN, the choicest and the best of Leb′a·non, all those drinking water, will be comforted. 17 With him they themselves also have gone down to She′ol, to those slain by the sword, and those who as his seed have dwelt in his shadow in the midst of nations.’
18 “‘Whom have you come to resemble thus in glory and greatness among the trees of E′den? But you will certainly be BROUGHT DOWN WITH THE TREES OF E"DEN to the land down below. In the midst of the uncircumcised ones you will lie down with those slain by the sword. This is Phar′aoh and all his crowd,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.”Moshe - any input on how Jew's compare this to Genesis? Both their book right?
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Garden of Eden, Tree of Knowledge, not quite literal
by EndofMysteries ini share this hoping motivates some into some bible reading, and stimulating your critical thinking.
is the concept of the tree of life and knowledge of good and bad anywhere in the bible?
read ezekiel chapter 31, the entire chapter.
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Thanks Moshe,
I do believe the bible does show death least once, as shown below as well.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is reserved for men to die once for all time, but after this a judgment, 28 so also the Christ was offered once for all time to bear the sins of many; and the second time that he appears it will be apart from sin and to those earnestly looking for him for [their] salvation.
Now Moshe,,,,,,,I'm asking since you seem to have done more research, or maybe have a jewish background. This is a puzzle so far can't find answer to online, why would there be 'concealed' and a LOT in Genesis, of hidden prophecies and such heavily linked to Revelation, Ezekiel, etc? Things which Jews don't believe?
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Garden of Eden, Tree of Knowledge, not quite literal
by EndofMysteries ini share this hoping motivates some into some bible reading, and stimulating your critical thinking.
is the concept of the tree of life and knowledge of good and bad anywhere in the bible?
read ezekiel chapter 31, the entire chapter.
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MallCop - Ofcoarse I would use scripture to get my points across, and the question was, "WITHIN the bible itself, is there evidence that the tree of knowledge of good and bad, could have been symbolic other then literally interpreted." With that being said, I won't quote from any other book or use anything other then the bible itself, which I did. So my only goal in that was to show that what people base on accepting or rejecting, may not always be the content itself, but how they were taught it was to be understood.
Thanks for your books, I'll take a lot at them. On a unrelated note, I've been doing much research into ancient beliefs, mythology, etc, so curious what I'll see in that compared to what I've found so far.
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Garden of Eden, Tree of Knowledge, not quite literal
by EndofMysteries ini share this hoping motivates some into some bible reading, and stimulating your critical thinking.
is the concept of the tree of life and knowledge of good and bad anywhere in the bible?
read ezekiel chapter 31, the entire chapter.
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Maybe, maybe not.
The story of Eden, apple or not, they sinned. For example, (not saying what I currently believe or believe is the truth of Eden, but this is merely an example), lets say the trees were symbolic of books, scrolls, angels who would teach, etc.
Romans 14:1 Welcome the [man] having weaknesses in [his] faith, but not to make decisions on inward questionings. 2 One [man] has faith to eat everything, but the [man] who is weak eats vegetables. (Here we see in regards to spiritual food, the act of eating as symbolized by it. One for 'everything', and one for vegetables).
Romans 14:13 Therefore let us not be judging one another any longer, but rather make this YOUR decision, not to put before a brother a stumbling block or a cause for tripping. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is defiled in itself; only where a man considers something to be defiled, to him it is defiled.
Romans 14:22Happy is the man that does not put himself on judgment by what he approves. 23 But if he has doubts, he is already condemned if he eats, because [he does] not [eat] out of faith. Indeed, everything that is not out of faith is sin.
Romans 3:19 - (Romans 3:19) Now we know that all the things the Law says it addresses to those under the Law, so that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may become liable to God for punishment. - (So what does the Law ACCOMPLISH here?)
(1 Corinthians 15:56) The sting producing death is sin, but the power for sin is the Law. (What produces death? What does it get its POWER from?)
(Galatians 2:16) knowing as we do that a man is declared righteous, not due to works of law, but only through faith toward Christ Jesus, even we have put our faith in Christ Jesus, that we may be declared righteous due to faith toward Christ, and not due to works of law, because due to works of law no flesh will be declared righteous. - (The law says just ONE sin equals what?
(Hebrews 10:26) For if we PRACTICE SIN willfully after having received the accurate KNOWLEDGE of the truth(Good and Evil?), there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left.
So, back to Garden of Eden and eating of the tree. Whether the fruit was real and made their minds realize good/bad, OR they took in knowledge they were not supposed to have, because by being like God, KNOWING good and evil, things started to become sin for them. Just the act of taking in that knowledge when the only thing they were told not to do, was the first sin, and started the curse of death. As seen in the above scriptures, the law exposes all sin, and impossible to not err even once for us.
Those on earth now who may want to reject knowing the truth, are not free either, Romans 2:12 - For instance, all those who sinned without law will also perish without law; but all those who sinned under law will be judged by law. 13 For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. 14 For whenever people of the nations that do not have law do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will be in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare.
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Did Jesus say: GO FEED MY SHEEP as much crap as you can?
by Terry inin 1922 new emphasis was placed on door to door selling of books and magazines by judge rutherford.
a set of 10 of his own books would eventually be sold for about $ 2.50 (about twenty five dollars in today's money).. the colporteur work under russell was not too dissimilar to fuller brush salesmen or vacuum cleaner sales.
rutherford would prove to be as prolific a writer as russell and kept the pressess churning out his angry screeds which attacked roman catholics, jews (big business), government and imagined conspiracies with the devil.
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WTWizard - that's ANOTHER misinterpretation, EVERYONE thinks that the bible was made book by book, and after John wrote Revelation, everything was done. The end of Revelation says, adding or removing from the WORDS OF THIS SCROLL. The scroll of revelation. (it was put as the last book and cannon 250+ years later? )
Remember the books about gifts of prophesy, understanding, etc. Very well could have been more inspired scrolls, etc, even down to armageddon, based on the scriptures, it says they are done away with when that which is whole arrives ( I take to mean when true restoration of true worship, which obviously not happened yet )
Anyway.......again that understanding is taken out of context.