AlltimeJeff - I'm unraveling and looking for answers on things which most just walk away from. Looking for solid information and those who were JWs and how they ended up at their current state. Seeing if anything either "pro" believing in bible and God, and 'not', and why. I am not trying to prove anything, I'm trying to get answers. The only things I stated, is because I understand why most gave up or stop believing.
I was 'hoping' for some very specific hard evidence or facts. For example somebody who doesn't believe in the bible, listing things older then the bible and what they said. Or evidence parts of the bible are rewrittings of pagan teachings, etc.
For those who do believe, the facts too. I have lots of inconclusive facts right now, gathering lots of important information. Have made some startling discoveries though lol.
Here is an interesting concept, one of the few possibilities from what I've been reading and learning so far. I list this one, as the concept may fill in some pieces of the puzzle to agnostics and atheists as well..,,,,I can't find any scriptual evidence of the bible teaching of a 2nd chance, a resurrection for everyone cept those in the last days to be able to prove themselves. On the part of preaching, it even says that it would not ever be fully complete, but those would be judged based on their conscious and also prove to have the law written in their hearts. Also in Revelation except for those ruling as kings and priests and of the first resurrection, the rest don't come to life until 'after' the thousand year reign, to be judged from how they lived their life on earth.
The scriptures say a lot about your conscious, anything done in a bad conscious is a sin. Anytime you do something you question or know may not be right, is a sin. Whether your believe or not, or know the truth or not. It doesn't take the bible or anybody telling you, that murder is wrong, rape is wrong, etc. Jesus also said not by searching the scriptures could they find life, because of the way they lived. If the true God is 'perfect' in justice, he would have things done in a way that's fair for all. What's to say that he is not PURPOSELY having the truth very hard to find and not really in public eye? Because he wants to see what choices and how some would live if they thought it didn't exist or can't be found. He's allowing ones to show their true selves. Those who think they have it, even if wrong, may be building up a record of judging when they were guilty of other things and no more deserving. (As a JW, most of us are probably guilty of that. )
And about the last days, there is a scripture that actually rebukes those who are wishing his day would come soon and 'craving' it, how stupid they are, because they are blind and don't know it, they will die if it came when they were wanting it. As for how long it's taking to come......making it seem like it will strike in your lifetime, so all those are judged and having lived their lives as if at once. (no excuse for the man 1500 years ago vs the man today, if they both thought it was about to hit) THEN the scriptures talking about grafting onto the olive tree, read that whole account in context. It says that Israels error was MADE TO BE, so that people of the nations would have a chance. But if they get haughty and 'think' they did 'better', they will be lopped off. That the error of Israel is until all those of the nations have been finally selected. Perhaps it's also quite literal, that we can't find the answers or learn from any human, we can only learn if faith and trust in the true God and he directs his spirit. Somebody showing the truth if they had it may seem like nonsense to us, we may be unable to comprehend it. In the end, these things which don't make sense right now, may make a lot of sense, and part of God's divine plan.
