game, set and match to leo!
maybe that other poster is one of the noted watchtower scholars ...
how ironic, that in hebrew the word for god is actually the name of a canaanite god el.
ive recently been facinated by the etymology of word, particularly those in the bible.
anyone can change the meanings or definition of words like we have witnessed with the generation, but the word itself cannot be changed.
game, set and match to leo!
maybe that other poster is one of the noted watchtower scholars ...
my name is michelle and from the age of 3 i was brought up one of jw.
my parents became witnesses whilst in germany when my father was stationed there with the british army.
we then came back to england where i lived in darwen, lancashire, and attended darwen, bolton and blackburn congregations over the next 18 years.
welcome michelle :) lot of great advice here. personally, i think undercover hit the nail on the head.
i've been intellectually awake for about three years now.
it's taken me time but i've figured out an exit strategy to leave the jw's as frictionless as possible.
it's impossible to leave with my dignity in tact but, leaving will be worth it.
good for you! i got my degree after i left. college: an amazing experience. after college, the witlesses and their pathetic excuse for a spiritual paradise seem so incredibly arcane and small ...
"that's right timothy.
just ask timothy.
i don't feel like the appropriate person to answer that question.
hahaha that was awesome!!!
you know what i found to be the creepiest? besides the completely alien tone of it now, but they only "interviewed" females ...
as many of you know my brother an elder was called on to sit in a "judicial committee" re-instatement.. the brother has in the past done all he can to prove he is repentant but this time the co was here and apparently had a few things to say to the cobe when they were discussing the process.
the co asked why the poor guy had four re-instatement hearings and why the co had received a letter from him detailing that he "did not think he could do anymore".. anyway, long story short, the co sat in the hearing and hey presto the brother was re-instated.
my brother and the co spoke with the brother and the co said that he had done well and was sorry that the process has taken so long and shook his hand.. now he mentioned the latest letter about confidentiality and said that the society is being hit left right and center with civil lawsuits and are scared as the have no way of defending them.
it seems with all the empasis on anti-bullying, the craptower should be a little worried, as their star chamber tactics and shunning and the gossip-mill could be construed as just that .. bullying.
perry, you have a pm
hi perry! you have a PM
the monsters in the thread title are not monsters of the mind or of nighmare, but just the friendly (or otherwise) little alien creatures depicting our forum selves.. it's illogical, but often i find myself feeling that these weird and wonderful creatures take on the personality of the poster.
phizzy's seems to me to be perfect for someone phizzy.
cantleave's suits him very well.
mine looks like a walking butt with a pig nose :(
apologies if this has been discussed before, but i am really very interested in finding out why members here left their congregations for lives away from jw?.
was there a "lightbulb" moment where you just woke up one day and realised that you had been brainwashed?
or a slow realisation over time?
hi curious. it wasnt a single moment for me. it was a series of events. i was practically raised in, and after getting to adulthood (and experiencing a terrible marriage to a violent disturbed witness), and subsequently seeing how ineffective and pathetic the leadership in the hall was, i withdrew and faded. i separated (and later divorced), but several years went by. i had as little contact with the witlesses as possible. it wasnt until i went to college and to therapy that i realised that i had been in a cult.
it has been a delightful journey ever since too :)
apologies if this has been discussed before, or is in the wrong forum, but i could really do with some advice.
two years ago i met the love of my life; someone i regard as my soulmate.
he is an active jw and i am a practising church of england person.
he is the classic example of living a double life. if he does that now, how do you think he will act after you are married?