Posts by theMadJW

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So what is your story MadJW

by elderelite in

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since you've been fingered as a troll i though i would give you a forum to tell us your story.. perhaps you could include details such as why you come to this site, how you found your way here, why you post, what cong your in, whether or not you are currently serving in some capacity.. anything you think would help us know you better.

theMadJW

And, BD- I guess I always get what I deserve when giving someone like YOU the 'benefit of the doubt', hypocrite.

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Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

by theMadJW in

since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

theMadJW

Don't believe every "report" you read; the implication is FALSE; we hate molesters as much- even MORE than YOU.

But people believe only what they WANT to believe....

Yes- I remain what I am; and HONEST person.

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Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

by theMadJW in

since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

theMadJW

Heh- here's one, for example-

The first time the pastor of her church made sexual advances, Deborah Dail said no.

"No" was her answer the second and third time the Baptist pastor propositioned her, the Denton mother of two said.

But as her resolve unraveled and her confusion mounted, Dail became sexually involved with the pastor in the county where she lived then.

"I refused and refused and refused until I didn't say `no' anymore," Dail said.

It was a relationship that she now calls "the most horrible experience of my life." Dail, a slender woman, lost 25 pounds and even considered suicide during the five years it continued, she said.

Dail now considers the sexual relationship an abuse of clergy power, and her attempts to confront area, state and national Baptist leaders have left her alienated, angry and ultimately disillusioned, she said.

Dail is not alone in her criticism.

Women who say they have been subjected to abuse by clergy say their complaints are often handled by Baptist church leaders as confessions of adultery, leaving them ostracized from their church friends and their support network.

Unlike other Protestant denominations that have national or regional policies that address clergy sexual misconduct, Baptists do not have policy suggestions for individual churches.

But with growing concern about sexual misconduct complaints, Texas and national Baptist leaders say that may change.

"It's clearly a widespread and growing problem," said Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. "We do not live in a vacuum as Christians and churches. We live in a society in which infidelity is more and more rampant."

At a staff retreat in Nashville, Tenn., next month, Land's commission will formulate suggestions for a possible denominationwide "response" to dealing with ministers who become sexually involved with congregants, Land said.

In addition, the Christian Life Commission of the Baptist General Convention of Texas formed a Clergy Sexual Abuse Task Force last spring to generate policy suggestions for churches, members of the task force said.

But setting guidelines for dealing with sexual misconduct may be difficult in a denomination that purposefully does not have a national structure. Each Baptist church is autonomous and is responsible for setting its own rules, Baptist leaders say.

Any policies developed nationally or regionally will be suggestions to individual churches. That doesn't mean that leaders of churches wouldn't welcome suggestions on how to handle complaints of sexual misconduct or how to best avoid the misconduct, said Joe E. Trull, a professor of Christian ethics at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary and a member of the Texas group's task force.

"The church and the denomination are, just by the sheer number on the news, realizing that we are going to have to do more than hope it doesn't come to our doorstep," he said.

The policies in the works by the Texas convention will help churches, pastors and congregations, task force members said. But leaders also hope that the policies will be a way to reach out to women who say they have been abused.

"One of our goals is to heighten awareness of the problem so that women would find strength in dealing with this issue if they have been abused -- to know there are people somewhere that will hear you and believe you," said Nancy Allison, family coordinator for the Baptist General Convention of Texas' Christian Life Commission and a member of the task force.

Accusers want to be heard

Hearing and believing is something that Baptist leaders have not done well, some women say.

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Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

by theMadJW in

since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

theMadJW

Glad I came back one more time. Such self-righteousness is what sickens me- I guess truth is even less important to all of you than I thought!

NONE of us condone, nor wish to protect such evil- and have a very difficult time of it- as ALL churches are, so " crawl back to your demonic churches and it's filthiness", or point fingers from a distance.

If I were to start posting articles of all the foul deeds CLERGY- even non-Cathloics- LL WOULD ban me!

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Rich Man and Lazarus

by Ding in

i have never understood the watchtower's explanation of the rich man and lazarus story jesus told in luke 16. of course, they don't believe jesus is talking about what happens in an "afterlife" after people die.. but from the watchtower's point of view:.

1. who are the five brothers?.

2. why can't lazarus go witness to them?

theMadJW

Agape, Chalam!

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Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

by theMadJW in

since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

theMadJW

Because you would KNOW if yours was telling the truth or not! YEEESH!

Well, I'm outta here; thanks, LL- its been a pleasure learning about you; I admire you!

However, I did not want to get involved in Judgment Debates over abuse policies: Christ will take care of such damned evil- once and for all!

(And I will do all I can if faced with it!)

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Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

by theMadJW in

since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

theMadJW

DB- If the policy is 2 or more witnesses- YES, I agree. If its small kids, I'd let the police know. Older kids, or adults- I'd have them stay at my house until THEY could make arrangements to leave, call the police, whatever.

What the HELLFIRE do the Elders have to do with it????

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Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?

by theMadJW in

since they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.

theMadJW

LL:"Perhaps Mad if the ex-wife who made the false allegation knew the elders would go to the authorities and her lies would come out she never would have uttered them to begin with.

THAT too is a problem with the WT policy. Some people think they can get away with it because they know the elders won't go to the police

Think about that one a moment or two"

Mad: Now THAT is a good point! EXCEPT that SHE should have called the police...heh

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