my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .
any ideas?.
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Wow, my wife has the same talk. She went over it with me last night and I noticed many similarities as if the witnesses all read from the same script. I suppose they do, no original thought here.
Her take on the question was that people become disgruntled with their church over doctrine or other issues, leave the church, and find another one nearby. On some level, I could accuse Pastor Russell of doing this.
my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .
any ideas?.
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When people do not read what is in the Bible, and only accept what their church leaders tell them without verifying if what they are being taught is actually in the Bible, then they are likely to follow men instead of really listening to God.
So, I will leave you these magazines, and how about when I come back we study with the Bibleifthere is a true religion?
Now there's a contradiction if I've ever seen one.
my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .
any ideas?.
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Really???!!?! What awake?
Haven't read it for myself but I think this source is trustworthy. It lists the Awake (correction Watchtower) article that speaks of it and upon a second glance does not directly come out and call Mr Camping a false prophet, but it did refer to his prediction as prophecy.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-prophet.php
As far as him saying it was invisible, that was discussed here sometime ago. I will have to look up the thread.
to illustrate my question.... i am watching an episode of the australian tv program "q & a" on youtube.
the panel includes the brilliant laurence krauss, gay bishop gene robinson, the woefully ignorant and bigoted rev fred nile and a few others.. the early questions put gene robinson under the spotlight and to be fair he comes across as a loving, compassionate, intelligent and - in his own words - "fabulous" person.
by contrast the reverend nile is a caricature of everything that is dispicable and hateful about theism.. a self-righteous young man in the audience asks gene how he deals with the bible's condemnation of homosexuality.
Did you read Matt Walsh's article? It is so bad I think I will have to respond to it later.
Yes I did, it is indeed terrible and I said as much in the comments section.
...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
Well a loose definition would essentially be anyone who has ever changed their mind. Lol.
You know, I think you're onto something. Perhaps I am an apostate.
...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
Per JW practices for decades now, it's not about your being 'guilty by association', but EVERYONE who speaks out publicly, even if not baptized, is guilty of apostasy for publicly criticizing the WT.
Yeah, in the Watchtower apostate is the dreaded boogeyman all witnesses are to fear. Better to be a rapist or a pedophile than to be one of them.
Jehovah's Witnesses think they have a right to lable everyone else but how dare anyone put lables on them. The bully people with the lable "apostate."
Yeah, their reasoning book is provided just for those labels like false prophets and cults.
Jesus was an apostate. He is my hero!
Mine too, he was also accused of having a demon in Him.
PS, you're "feeding at the table of DEMONS!!!!" Scary isn't it? Happy Halloween! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YeR7GTaZ0c
“Yeah, if you're not FOR THE WT, you're against them…” Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes!
...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy
Some consequences for it that the Watchtower can only envy:
The following are some nations that treat apostasy under their criminal laws.
...it is not the first time i did this but from time to time when i get frustrated i tend to say things i later regret, like this.. she went to the meeting this past sunday and apparently she heard a talk about watching her associations.
she told me that she was glad to have that talk because the message was timely for her.
you see, the saturday night prior she and my kids were at her sisters house and her sister and friends suggested that she hang out with them sometime.
https://www.google.com/#q=apostate
a·pos·tate ?'päs?tat , -tit / noun noun: apostate ; plural noun: apostates
| synonyms: | dissenter, defector, deserter, traitor, backslider, turncoat ; More nonconformist ; schismatic ; archaic heretic ; rare recusant, recreant, tergiversator " after 50 years as an apostate, he returned to the faith " |
| antonyms: | follower |
my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .
any ideas?.
.
Perhaps you can talk about Harold Camping and how his prediction of May 21st, 2012 was originally predicted to happen visibly but was later revised so that it actually happened invisibly. Point out that an Awake article labeled him a false prophet for it.
to illustrate my question.... i am watching an episode of the australian tv program "q & a" on youtube.
the panel includes the brilliant laurence krauss, gay bishop gene robinson, the woefully ignorant and bigoted rev fred nile and a few others.. the early questions put gene robinson under the spotlight and to be fair he comes across as a loving, compassionate, intelligent and - in his own words - "fabulous" person.
by contrast the reverend nile is a caricature of everything that is dispicable and hateful about theism.. a self-righteous young man in the audience asks gene how he deals with the bible's condemnation of homosexuality.
Matt Walsh would disagree with you.
