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  If You Had To Have A Religion Which Would You Not Mind Belonging To?

  by minimus in

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  if you were even born into a religion, would you feel that you had to get out?

  ( the only religion that i know of where people get out and often never go to any other religion is the jw religion)..

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  believingxjw

  Blondie,

  Thanks for the post. What religion has Jim Penton joined?
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  If You Had To Have A Religion Which Would You Not Mind Belonging To?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you were even born into a religion, would you feel that you had to get out?

  ( the only religion that i know of where people get out and often never go to any other religion is the jw religion)..

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  believingxjw

  The Witnesses, for many, do a good job of disproving the Trinity. That leaves out most Christian churches. The Bible Students, though among them are Free Bible Students who do not agree with everything Russell taught, do still follow many of Russell's teachings including the Pyramid, 1874? invisible presence, Russell being the FDS, and other things most exJWs could not accept. That leaves very few religions left, so it's not surprising that many exJWs Christians, like Ray Franz and others, do not join another religion.
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  How long until the WT Society gives "new light" about the Internet?

  by DagothUr in

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  the watchtower and awake have given some warnings in the past concerning materials available via the internet.

  apostate and porn sites, violent games, useless and frivolous entertainment, and so on.

  for now, they are contended with just giving friendly warnings.

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  believingxjw

  The Society cannot restrict their members from the internet just as they can't stop adultery, lying, fornication and child abuse among all their members. The Internet is a reality they cannot stop their members from using.
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  Scriptures out of context

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm working on my column nad came across this thought by ray franz regarding how often the wts takes things out of context.

  they take a scripture from one places in the bbiel and match it up with a couple of other scriptures from 2 or more other places and piece them together liek one huge jigsaw puzzle.

  and then present some kind of doctrinal picture based on their out-of-context jigsaw pieces.. that is like taking 3 sentences from various books on history and putting them together to create a new theory.

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  believingxjw

  Next time you debate with a Christian ask about the out of context quotes in the NT. Should be interesting to read their response.
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  Scriptures out of context

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm working on my column nad came across this thought by ray franz regarding how often the wts takes things out of context.

  they take a scripture from one places in the bbiel and match it up with a couple of other scriptures from 2 or more other places and piece them together liek one huge jigsaw puzzle.

  and then present some kind of doctrinal picture based on their out-of-context jigsaw pieces.. that is like taking 3 sentences from various books on history and putting them together to create a new theory.

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  believingxjw

  It is what it is. What we believe or do not believe is not that important, imo. What's important is how we treat one another. People who love their fellow man or who love the earth and try to care for it are found in all nations and religions. That part of mankind is ONE!
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  Watchtower is like a member of the United Nations FAMILY!

  by Dogpatch in

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  here's a good one sent to me that i thought i'd post on the united nations.. randy.

  a member of the family!

  the united nations library card is an identification card which will entitle me to library privileges.

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  believingxjw

  Personally, I could not care less if the Watchtower decided to become an NGO. What got me were their deceptive pro-U.N. articles in the Awake! magazine back in the 1990's. I saw that when I was still in and could not understand why they were doing that, then later I learned. Hypocrites is what they were and are.
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  Scriptures out of context

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm working on my column nad came across this thought by ray franz regarding how often the wts takes things out of context.

  they take a scripture from one places in the bbiel and match it up with a couple of other scriptures from 2 or more other places and piece them together liek one huge jigsaw puzzle.

  and then present some kind of doctrinal picture based on their out-of-context jigsaw pieces.. that is like taking 3 sentences from various books on history and putting them together to create a new theory.

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  believingxjw

  I agree Lady Lee, but then the NT itself does the same. It takes quotes from the OT and applies them to the Christ but the context of those quotes do not always apply directly to the Christ. So, I suppose, JWs and Bible Students and other Christian faiths have some support for using the same practice.
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  I Am Curious, So A Couple/Few Questions, If I May...

  by AGuest in

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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  i am curious (and serious)... regarding your thoughts as to the "source" for the "sacred secrets" revealed by paul... and whether you believe he was the last to so receive (if you indeed believe so and excluding john's revelation) and why you believe so, particularly given the "gifts" of the spirit and the prophecy regarding its outpouring.

  i am also curious as to what you believe such gifts are for... and how they are used.. i am curious... because i am concerned.

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  believingxjw

  I appreciate your reply, SA. First, let me say that my cousin is my cousin not me. I do not attend his congregation nor do I agree with everything taught there. It was merely an example of what many Christians experience. If some Christians are only disciples and only those who hear an audible voice are Christians then does not make for a two tier Christianity much like the Witnesses?

  I apologize for not answering the question, is it possible for you to restate it please? My time here is difficult and limited.
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  I Am Curious, So A Couple/Few Questions, If I May...

  by AGuest in

  1. jw
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  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  i am curious (and serious)... regarding your thoughts as to the "source" for the "sacred secrets" revealed by paul... and whether you believe he was the last to so receive (if you indeed believe so and excluding john's revelation) and why you believe so, particularly given the "gifts" of the spirit and the prophecy regarding its outpouring.

  i am also curious as to what you believe such gifts are for... and how they are used.. i am curious... because i am concerned.

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  believingxjw

  SA,

  As I said in my post above not all, in that particular congregation, who audibly hear the voice also shake. Perhaps you could comment on these as well. My cousin attended such a congregation, the voice of Christ heard by all audibly. Signs were also present as were other phenomenon. This is what the Christians attending that congregation wanted and apparently needed. I seems that Jesus accommodated them.

  Other Christians are content to follow Jesus by attempting to do as he taught in the Gospels. They do not seek more than that, maybe they don't need it. Don't know. Christians can follow Jesus without hearing an audible voice! It is done everyday.
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  I Am Curious, So A Couple/Few Questions, If I May...

  by AGuest in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

  i am curious (and serious)... regarding your thoughts as to the "source" for the "sacred secrets" revealed by paul... and whether you believe he was the last to so receive (if you indeed believe so and excluding john's revelation) and why you believe so, particularly given the "gifts" of the spirit and the prophecy regarding its outpouring.

  i am also curious as to what you believe such gifts are for... and how they are used.. i am curious... because i am concerned.

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  believingxjw

  There are Christian congregations that call on Jesus and all audibly hear his voice and many are visibly shaken with God's spirit. Not all, though, shake from the spirit some just audibly hear the voice without being shaken.

  Then there are other Christian congregations who do not claim to audibly hear the voice of Jesus and do not shake with spirit. They meet together, they worship together, they love one another and follow Jesus.

  Not all Christians in the first century shared the same gifts but they were all Christians nonetheless.