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  What's with the Ethan fetish?

  by neat blue dog in

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  three major characters in jw movies named ethan in 2012, 2014 & now 2016.. coincidence, lack of imagination, or something more?.

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  bohm

  Well, it used to be Andre. The smart money should be on the next name being something with and I :-).
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  here i am

  by notalone in

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  i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.

  my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.

  i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.

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  bohm

  Hi and welcome. I am glad you put your family first and got your daughter out, being forced to go to the hall with her perp and being gaslighted by the elders must be the worst environment to heal. I hope you will post more of your story on how you freed the rest of your family, it sounds truly fascinating.

  "This was last summer then I found ARC. I sat there screaming at the computer."

  you deserve a prize for not putting your fist through the screen!.
  
  
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  AWAKE! NO. 5 2016 - Did Jesus Really Exist?

  by ttdtt in

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  so again we go to the quality of evidence used by the wt.. you can read the article here - https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no5-2016-october/did-jesus-really-exist/.

  you see the wt refer to experts with quotes.

  as is usually the case the credentials are not represented, just that they are experts (so take their word).

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  bohm

  CG: The other mentioning of a Jesus most experts agree this texts was a forgery.

  What is the source for this? from Wikipedia:

  The general scholarly view is that while the Testimonium Flavianum is most likely not authentic in its entirety, it is broadly agreed upon that it originally consisted of an authentic nucleus, which was then subject to Christian expansion/alteration

  There is IMO a lot of questionable assumptions floating around in the atheistic community on Jesus mythicism.
  
  
  
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  Is the Bible God's word? Help please.....

  by Freeandclear in

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  so real quick, i know this comes up now and then and i've looked over some of the posts from the past but here's the thing.. when i was a jw i drank all the cool aid, i was 100% and so i have all my own arguments (from the jw's) for why the bible is inspired.

  i no longer believe this but i'd really like to read something that is pretty much 100% academic on this subject.

  i want to read what scholars have to say about the authenticity of the bible and it's claim at being the inspired word of god.

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  bohm

  Hi Freeandclear,

  If you are looking for middle-of-the-road stuff I would recommend Israel Finkelstein's "The bible unearthed" for the OT and "Misquoting Jesus" (or another book by Bart Ehrman; he write the same in all his books ;-) ) for the NT.

  Perhaps even better Yale has their courses on the OT and NT available online.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtQ2TS1CiDY&list=PL279CFA55C51E75E0

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V006bX4mlu4&list=PLfbxB0kKayCQ2Hf6JlCCDN6z47ySYxsCW

  they should give a good overview of the mainstream academic view. Start with the NT, the lecturer (Dale Martin, a Christian) is really entertaining.
  
  
  
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  AWAKE! NO. 5 2016 - Did Jesus Really Exist?

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so again we go to the quality of evidence used by the wt.. you can read the article here - https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no5-2016-october/did-jesus-really-exist/.

  you see the wt refer to experts with quotes.

  as is usually the case the credentials are not represented, just that they are experts (so take their word).

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  bohm

  SBF:

  Isn't it customary, when asking a question like this, to first explain why the question arises in the first place? There is no sense, anywhere in this magazine, as to who has been asking this question in the first place, who supports the idea, how it originated, or the arguments involved.

  I think this is a very precise observation.. I think this is the general tactic for the WT, they never try to frame the argument (context, history, who believes it, why, etc.) but just introduce it like "Some people say/believe.." (always "some") and then pile on their counter arguments without explaining the other position in details. I think the best example is "evolution" and "the theory of evolution" which I think the WTBs in 100 years has still not defined even once.
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  AWAKE! NO. 5 2016 - Did Jesus Really Exist?

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so again we go to the quality of evidence used by the wt.. you can read the article here - https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no5-2016-october/did-jesus-really-exist/.

  you see the wt refer to experts with quotes.

  as is usually the case the credentials are not represented, just that they are experts (so take their word).

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  bohm

  I have always been amazed at how the WT will quote Einstein in support of their positions whenever possible but ignore most of what he believed:

  
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  AWAKE! NO. 5 2016 - Did Jesus Really Exist?

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so again we go to the quality of evidence used by the wt.. you can read the article here - https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no5-2016-october/did-jesus-really-exist/.

  you see the wt refer to experts with quotes.

  as is usually the case the credentials are not represented, just that they are experts (so take their word).

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  bohm

  Yah that was predictably awfull. I dont doubt jesus existed, but it is amazing the wt cant even make a good argument when they are right.
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  Warwick Photo Gallery 5 (September 2015 - Feb. 2016)

  by wifibandit in

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  full set: http://imgur.com/a/1ru5z .

  sample:.

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  bohm

  I actually thought it would be bigger. Any idea about how many it will house?
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  Brighton Convention Being Discussed

  by konceptual99 in

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  whilst browsing my local football team's fan forum, i spied this thread.... http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?340338-10-000-expected-at-the-amex.

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  bohm

  Yah, nice comment. The shitty youtube videos are a gift that keeps on giving.
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  Jwtv: act of love = giving money

  by bohm in

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  i kid you not, giving money is an act of love according to jwtv (juli edition).

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  bohm

  I swear this is the last one. After this i will never proofread another sentence.