Why do they own a house with a tennis court on top?!
Posts by bohm
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669 Adams St. in DUMBO up for sale
by betterdaze inthe jehovah's witnesses put 69 adams st. in dumbo up for saleby lore croghanbrooklyn daily eagletennis, anyone?.
the jehovah's witnesses have just put onto the sale market a development site in the heart of dumbo, 69 adams st.the building that now occupies the site has a four-story recreational facility and an 84-space parking garage.
its rooftop is graced with an open-air tennis court — which is topped by a fence so cars and pedestrians down below don't accidentally get pelted with over-exuberantly hit balls.the watchtower recently posted the sale offering online without alerting reporters.according to the posting, 69 adams st. is “a 157,410-square-foot development opportunity adjacent to the iconic manhattan bridge.” the jehovah's witnesses did not offer any comment about their sale offering to the brooklyn eagle when asked about it.
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry inthe universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
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bohm
and welcome Giles. -
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry inthe universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
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bohm
Perry:
bohn, your false assumptions were already refuted pages ago. And you know it.
The universe had a beginning. You can't change that.
Beginnings have causes. You can't change that either.I am not making any false assumptions, I am simply stating what the article says and do not say. The two research articles are freely available on ArXiv, please feel free to quote those sections that supports the idea that OUR universe (not the considered classical model universe that does not take a quantum model of gravity into account) had a beginning.
YOU are the one who are making the false assumption the article proves our universe had a beginning. It plainly does not. In fact at least one of the authors of the papers believes our universe did not have a beginning. You are either doing more of the old lyin' for Jesus (isn't that supposed to be a sin?) or you are just being plain ignorant.
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Evolution is a Fact #12 - Lenski's E. coli Experiment
by cofty inevolution works by the non-random selection of random mutation.
natural selection accumulates favourable random chance events.. the experiment that was began on 24th february 1988 on e coli bacteria by dr richard e. lenski and his team is surely one of the clearest demonstrations of the power of this process.. e.coli is one of the commonest bacterium on earth, there is around 100 billion, billion of them in the world at any given time and around 1 billion of them in your gut right now.
most of the time they cause no problem, until a new strain wreaks havoc on its host's digestive system.. if we assume the probability of a particular gene mutating to be 1 in a billion, the size of the population is so high that just about every gene in the e.coli genome will have mutated somewhere in the world every day.
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bohm
Anyone can read the short posted article and its references. If you still think that the O.P. provides proof that the evolutionists claimed version of history is true over creation than that's fine.
The article incorrectly summarizes the experiments as a man who misses his arms might "gain" the ability to wiggle through the pipe. This summary misses that new genetic information arose by gene duplication, i.e. a gene was copied in such a way that it came under a different control mechanism and thereby gave the bacteria the ability to metabolize citrate. Can we agree on that?
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Evolution is a Fact #12 - Lenski's E. coli Experiment
by cofty inevolution works by the non-random selection of random mutation.
natural selection accumulates favourable random chance events.. the experiment that was began on 24th february 1988 on e coli bacteria by dr richard e. lenski and his team is surely one of the clearest demonstrations of the power of this process.. e.coli is one of the commonest bacterium on earth, there is around 100 billion, billion of them in the world at any given time and around 1 billion of them in your gut right now.
most of the time they cause no problem, until a new strain wreaks havoc on its host's digestive system.. if we assume the probability of a particular gene mutating to be 1 in a billion, the size of the population is so high that just about every gene in the e.coli genome will have mutated somewhere in the world every day.
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bohm
I don't post articles for the Evo-dogmatists here.
I totally get you, name-calling is properly a better approach than discussing the evidence.
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Evolution is a Fact #12 - Lenski's E. coli Experiment
by cofty inevolution works by the non-random selection of random mutation.
natural selection accumulates favourable random chance events.. the experiment that was began on 24th february 1988 on e coli bacteria by dr richard e. lenski and his team is surely one of the clearest demonstrations of the power of this process.. e.coli is one of the commonest bacterium on earth, there is around 100 billion, billion of them in the world at any given time and around 1 billion of them in your gut right now.
most of the time they cause no problem, until a new strain wreaks havoc on its host's digestive system.. if we assume the probability of a particular gene mutating to be 1 in a billion, the size of the population is so high that just about every gene in the e.coli genome will have mutated somewhere in the world every day.
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bohm
Some of this might be due to what would more accurately be described as "devolution" rather than supporting unequivocally the evolutionists claimed version of history over creation.
Yes, and an arguments for why god exist might be illogical, the ICR website might be lying, your favored political party might consist of crypto-nazis and your neighbor might be a murderer. The word "might" is not worth a lot in a conversation about what is.
Rather than speculating that Coftys argument might suffer from this or that why not focus on what is the case? is this a case of "de-evolution"? In which case is it then not the case this organism "de-evolved" new genetic information responsible for a new metabolic pathway?
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Evolution is a Fact #12 - Lenski's E. coli Experiment
by cofty inevolution works by the non-random selection of random mutation.
natural selection accumulates favourable random chance events.. the experiment that was began on 24th february 1988 on e coli bacteria by dr richard e. lenski and his team is surely one of the clearest demonstrations of the power of this process.. e.coli is one of the commonest bacterium on earth, there is around 100 billion, billion of them in the world at any given time and around 1 billion of them in your gut right now.
most of the time they cause no problem, until a new strain wreaks havoc on its host's digestive system.. if we assume the probability of a particular gene mutating to be 1 in a billion, the size of the population is so high that just about every gene in the e.coli genome will have mutated somewhere in the world every day.
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bohm
I am just glad an E.coli stays an E.coli, "according to its kind." It wil wreak havoc with the identification process in a lab if it had the ability to become for example a Klebsiella or a Pseudomonas.
thats...not...how..phylogeny...works..must..not..be..sarcast-
That's exactly true, it will remain E.coli even if the entire sequence of it's genome which is specific to E.coli is changed one gene at a time. It's like a bucket of blue paint. You add a drop of yellow paint and it is still blue "according to it's kind of paint". You add another drop and still blue and so on and on. It will never change color because it is of the blue paint kind!
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The Congregational Make Up Research Project: WTB&TS wants to know you.
by oppostate inwe have a bethel speaker on the english side.
they're pretty regular up here since it's only three and a half hours drive from nyc.. but this is a special kind of visit.. it turns out he's involved in doing a special research project and the christian congregation of jw's wants to know us better.. in order for the broadcasting to address issues more meaningful for families, they want to know the demographic make up of the congregations.. he spoke with the secretary about young single publishers and couples 20-35 y.o.
how are they employed.
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bohm
Steve2: the reddit post seems very suspicious, but the events described in the OP could be seen as independent confirming at least parts of them (check the dates) -
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The Congregational Make Up Research Project: WTB&TS wants to know you.
by oppostate inwe have a bethel speaker on the english side.
they're pretty regular up here since it's only three and a half hours drive from nyc.. but this is a special kind of visit.. it turns out he's involved in doing a special research project and the christian congregation of jw's wants to know us better.. in order for the broadcasting to address issues more meaningful for families, they want to know the demographic make up of the congregations.. he spoke with the secretary about young single publishers and couples 20-35 y.o.
how are they employed.
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bohm
This poster on reddit claims that there is a special department about bethel which specialize in gathering information about the JWs, presumably related to income:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4j7ocl/rumor_new_psych_department_at_bethel/
It sounded a bit tinfoily but what do you know, someone from bethel is doing a survey....!
Since last September 1, I have worked in an almost clandestine department, installed in Patterson, in the area of the new video studio, an office with several faithful brothers, all university graduates (a graduate in sociology at Chicago and some older brothers from the service department, with the help of several elders of the U.S. franch service desk).
They have been conducting a study in more than 100 congregations across the United States, with fieldwork, taking advantage of special talks and Circuit Assemblies, developing profiles on:
Family Groups and age demographics - Young couples with children under ten years - Married Couples with teenage children under 18 - Adolescents and young ones under 25 years.
Beauty and Fashion trends of: - Young Couples - Teenagers - Young people under 25 years.
Racial groups in U.S. English congregations Racial groups in U.S. Spanish congregations
Economic situation of the congregation and members. - Property, vehicles, jobs.
The idea of the Coordinating Committee, which oversees this study on sociology and trends, is to analyze the real situation in all congregations in the United States, create a profile to modify procedures to advance the new e-cult 3.0.
It aims to soften some procedures, modify the [theocratic?] vocabulary and make some small cosmetic changes to be discussed within the Governing Body.
When we have more news, we will give more light, you can be sure!
The existence of this department is very confidential, they are scared to possible leaks. Traceable documents are very limited, and those who have done fieldwork know the use of all data that they have been collecting.
The same study is being done in Mexico during 2016-2017.
Hedmano Replicante and his girlfriend (former Bethelite) in Patterson.
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry inthe universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
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bohm
Just to clarify, materialists starts with the assumptions we are here, now in a universe that is at least partly understandable through reason and experience. Reason and experience gets us back to about 13.7 billions years ago in the very early big-bang phase of our universe where we have no relevant experience and reason gives contradiction results. The logical conclusion is then not "it sure all came from nothing" but "we don't know".
Perry, YOU are the one who claims to know what lies outside reason. Stop projecting your arrogance onto others.