in the blog http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com bloggers john shore, john loftus, and robert price are watching the dismantling of christinaity over the lgbt question in the us.
see the 10/17/2014 post.. coupled with the scandals of the megachurches lately many christians are asking questions for the first time on how things have gotten this way and where is the holy spirit to protect the church and people.. .
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Junction-Guy: Christians are leaving, just as the bible predicted.
I bet when the number of evangelic christians was INCREASING all the evangelics was saying: "Oh no, people are joining christianity and our church is becoming larger, this is nothing like the bible predicted the bible must be wrong!"
oh wait that too was proof god was blessing the church!
You know, there is a term for an idea where no matter how the evidence turns out it is taken to support it. It is "pseudoscientific".
in the blog http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com bloggers john shore, john loftus, and robert price are watching the dismantling of christinaity over the lgbt question in the us.
see the 10/17/2014 post.. coupled with the scandals of the megachurches lately many christians are asking questions for the first time on how things have gotten this way and where is the holy spirit to protect the church and people.. .
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Unstopable: I recognize that you think homosexuals should be allowed to do the same as the rest of us and think this does not think this has something to do with their rights, but I don't think it is very logical.
I know a nice lesbian couple who got married one year ago. Can you give one good reason why they should not have been allowed to be married that is not based on God's supposed whims?
in the blog http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com bloggers john shore, john loftus, and robert price are watching the dismantling of christinaity over the lgbt question in the us.
see the 10/17/2014 post.. coupled with the scandals of the megachurches lately many christians are asking questions for the first time on how things have gotten this way and where is the holy spirit to protect the church and people.. .
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unstopable: How is saying marriage is to be only between a nd a man and women bashing?
How is saying marriage is not between people of different color bashing?
Today it is considered racist, a few decades ago it was not. You are on the wrong side of history on this issue and that is one of the things thats driving the younger generation away from evangelism. Give it a few decades and evangalism will change, religion always do.
in the blog http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com bloggers john shore, john loftus, and robert price are watching the dismantling of christinaity over the lgbt question in the us.
see the 10/17/2014 post.. coupled with the scandals of the megachurches lately many christians are asking questions for the first time on how things have gotten this way and where is the holy spirit to protect the church and people.. .
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It is a bit funny that unstopable ravens repressive attitude towards homosexuality, as well as his attitude towards those more progressively minded (they are to be blamed and branded as sinfull) is exactly one of the things that is hurting the evangelic movement right now.
keep up the godly gaybashing upstopableravens . What you are experiencing is the feeling of being on the wrong side of history and moral progress. In a few decades your oppinions will be considered fringe and cringeworthy like overt racism or sexism.
hey guys.
there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.
conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .
my god, i saw a cooking show the other day and they told people to put EBOLA in their food! or rather, they said:
"You can eat cola"
E(B)OLA!
They thought they could sneak in this hidden message but I got the better of them; perhaps they thought so because "eat" sound very differently in my language and the evil illuminati satanist alien cucumberdwarfes didn't think i could speak english, but I solved their riddle and NOW THE INTERNETS KNOW!!!!
ps.
Can anyone tell me, if the illuminati is behind ebola, but ebola is also the plague the lord cast upon mankind according to genesis, would that make Jesus himself an illuminati member? it sounds plausible, since it is well-known the church, illuminati and builder-bob are basically the same, however isnt jesus the good guy?
hey guys.
there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.
conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .
gopher: Then you have the gaul to criticize the Watchtower when they do what you do to a far LESSER extent.
gopher, i am super serious, you will no longer be able to talk to your family.
I just send them a letter and they will shun you from now on.
The only way to end this is by quitly lurking for a year.
hey guys.
there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.
conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .
...so when the ebola scare quitly dies out in a few months, this will once and for all disconfirm the "hidden messages in tv shows" crap? Right?
Or is it more like it will again and again immune to disconfirming evidence like a religious belief..
this is an extremely long shot but does anyone have any contact with stefan molyneux of freedomainradio or know of anyone associated with them who can be contacted discreetly?
many thanks .
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I am waaaay to curious for this thread..
why not just mail the radio show?
i think my earlier post " what is a fact" has run it's course.
in this thread i would like to present the same question " what is a fact" from a different viewpoint.. many j.w children have loving parents ( that is a fact) but parents who insanley demanded unquestioning obidience to their deranged standards.. so " what is a fact" to innocent children is that a god who they have never seen nor heard, will destroy them if they dont live to the g.bs deranged standards.. so basically these children have been taught the wrong meaning of words:-.
love is conditional.
NHaH: I think you need to more firmly distinguish between the particular claim ("The cat is white") and the belief in the claim (I believe it is nearly certainly true that "the cat is white"). Much post-modern waffle on truth and facts arise by confusing the two, for instance it is argued that since we can never know for certain that a cat is white (the second type of claim) the first type of statement does not make sense, or since two people can have different beliefs about the cat (say one can think the cat is white and the other black; again a claim of the second type) we cannot make sense of the factual statement "the cat is white".
Once this distinction is made, and once we accept knowledge is not certainty nor have to be, a lot of philosophical deadwood is swept away.
i think my earlier post " what is a fact" has run it's course.
in this thread i would like to present the same question " what is a fact" from a different viewpoint.. many j.w children have loving parents ( that is a fact) but parents who insanley demanded unquestioning obidience to their deranged standards.. so " what is a fact" to innocent children is that a god who they have never seen nor heard, will destroy them if they dont live to the g.bs deranged standards.. so basically these children have been taught the wrong meaning of words:-.
love is conditional.
Crossposting:
The emphasis on words like fact, truth, proven or certainty in conjuction with scientific ideas is in my oppinion a misunderstanding of the nature of science and knowledge in general. It is much more usefull to consider science as obtained ideas that are usefull in the sense of making predictions; when these predictions turn out to be confirmed or disconfirmed on evidence, this allow us to increase or decrease our confidence in the ideas. "Usefull", "trustworthy" or "properly true" are in my oppinion a more usefull vocabulary.
Bertrand Russell, in his history of western philosophy, discuss this as the difference between the english and continential enlightenment: The continential enlightenment (Kant is a good example) conceptualize the process of obtaining knowledge as starting out from certain ideas that are assumed to be self-evidently true and then deducing consequences that must then be true as well. The english enlightenment view knowledge as being piecemeal, tentative and not necesarily strictly true. Russell illustrate the obtained knowledge as two pyramids: the english enlightenment supporting theories on a wide base of accepted ideas and facts whereas the continential enlightenment is an inverted pyramid where broad knowledge is supported on just a pinpoint of logic.
