ablebodiedman
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How to treat Bible prophesies
by raymond frantz inhi guys i'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .the page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-jehovah's witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/.
"there is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine.
a true christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .the word of god provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .paul in 1 thessalonians 5:20 warns us "do not treat prophesyings with contempt.".
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How to treat Bible prophesies
by raymond frantz inhi guys i'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .the page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-jehovah's witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/.
"there is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine.
a true christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .the word of god provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .paul in 1 thessalonians 5:20 warns us "do not treat prophesyings with contempt.".
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ablebodiedman
9/ Daniel and The Constant Sacrifice being taken away from the Prince of the armies.
Why? - The constant sacrifice that Jesus Christ gave was his own crucifixion and blood. The implication is severe!
Actually the implication is abominable, its an appalling sacrilege, its a disgusting thing!
Now go back and see # 3 and also # 4 above.
It's all about the same things..
abe
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How to treat Bible prophesies
by raymond frantz inhi guys i'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .the page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-jehovah's witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/.
"there is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine.
a true christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .the word of god provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .paul in 1 thessalonians 5:20 warns us "do not treat prophesyings with contempt.".
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ablebodiedman
1/ The "Kings" in Revelation.
Why? - They are NOT pagan kings.
2/ The final day Prophecy in Genesis Ch 49.
Why? - They are the "Kings" in Revelation.
3/ The "disgusting thing" in Matthew 24.
Why? - Nothing to do with Romans in the 1st Century. The brick and mortar temple was no longer "a Holy Place".
and .... Jesus Christ said we should discern it!
4/ The Daniel CH 2:44 prophecy.
Why? - The last kingdom that God set up was Christianity and it has already been ruined. (the next one won't be!)
5/ Jesus Christ distressed about his baptism in Luke 12:50 and the fire that will cause divisions.
Why? - Jehovah's Witnesses have had the audacity and presumption to re-invent Jesus Christs baptism
6/ Luke 21:8 people will come on the basis of Jesus Christs name saying that the due time has approached.
Why? - take a good look at what Jehovah's Witnesses have been preaching from door to door for decades!
7/ Revelation 19:20 which mentions that it is the False Prophet who misleads people into getting the mark of the beast.
Why? - Jesus Christ said the false prophets would come in his name. aka Christian. Only Christians will be deceived into getting the mark of the beast! This one scripture blows to shreds all the popular opinion and convictions!
8/ Daniel Chapter 8 Ram Horns and Goat Horns.
Why? Its about the history of Christianity throughout the last 2000 years. Catholicism > Protestantism > Reforms > Jehovah's Witnesses
9/ Daniel and The Constant Sacrifice being taken away from the Prince of the armies.
Why? - The constant sacrifice that Jesus Christ gave was his own crucifixion and blood. The implication is severe!
10/ Isaiah 66:5, John 16:1-3 and Romans 9:26 all about excommunication (aka Disfellowshipping)
Why? There is only one religion on this planet who exclude brothers through the use of God's actual name. see Isaiah 66:5
Is that a good start?
abe
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How to treat Bible prophesies
by raymond frantz inhi guys i'm writing a new article for my website about prophesies ,please let me know what you think and give me some feedback .the page is dedicated to prophesy interpretation from ex-jehovah's witnesses that don't agree with the interpretation of the watchtower http://new-jw.org/prophesies/.
"there is a fine line between interpreting prophesy and imposing this interpretation upon others as a doctrine.
a true christian who is faithful and discreet should never attempt to cross this line .the word of god provides with guidelines on how to treat prophesy .paul in 1 thessalonians 5:20 warns us "do not treat prophesyings with contempt.".
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ablebodiedman
The 70 week prophesy is a very interesting one.
The Watchtower has it completely wrong.
At the end of the 70 weeks transgressions are terminated.
So ask yourself if you think the transgressions have been terminated yet.
Also ask yourself when you think that might happen.
Here is a scripture that gives a clue:
Matthew 13:39-43
The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom ALL THINGS that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen.
So if the 70 weeks has not yet ended then the timing explained by the Watchtower Society is really screwed up!
So what about the start of the 70 weeks?
Daniel 9:24-25
And you should know and have the insight [that] from the going forth of [the] word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem
When did that really happen?
Acts 15:13-18
13 After they quit speaking, James answered, saying: "Men, brothers, hear me. 14 Sym´e·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And with this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 ‘After these things I shall return and rebuild the booth of David that is fallen down; and I shall rebuild its ruins and erect it again, 17 in order that those who remain of the men may earnestly seek Jehovah, together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name, says Jehovah, who is doing these things, 18 known from of old.’
The Apostles came to realize that it was happening in the first Century!
What the Watchtower teaches about Artaxerxes is complete BS.
Yep, that is how I treat Bible prophesies.
abe
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What differences have you noticed between RELIGION and the GOSPEL?
by Fernando inon our journey we are learning that:.
religion is a preoccupation with man's views on god.. the gospel is a preoccupation with god's views on man.. "man's search for god" versus "god's search for man" if you will.. it seems to us that there is no intention or prospect of ever reconciling the two.
therefore it seems we have to choose one or the other, no matter how hard.. what are your observations?.
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ablebodiedman
There is NO Christian Religion today that properly teaches the Gospel.
Including the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society!
It is so bad, that the value of Jesus Christ's sacrifice has been withdrawn.
That is what Daniel Chapter 8 prophesied would happen:
Daniel 8:11
And all the way to the Prince of the army it put on great airs, and from him the constant [feature] was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down.
There are a Billion Christians on this planet who don't get it!
abe
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Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG
by mindnumbed insymposium: beware of apostates!.
satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .
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ablebodiedman
So what really is an apostate from a biblical point of view.
Is an apostate someone who:
1/ Obey Jesus Christ?
or
2/ Obeys men?
Luke 21:8
He said: "Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them
Do not go after them!
So..................... who really are the apostates?
abe
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Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG
by mindnumbed insymposium: beware of apostates!.
satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .
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ablebodiedman
So what really is an apostate from a biblical point of view.
Is an apostate someone who:
1/ Obey Jesus Christ?
or
2/ Obeys men?
Luke 21:8
He said: "Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them
Do not go after them!
So..................... who really are the apostates?
abe
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Pickin and a Grinnin
by frankiespeakin inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcns8jupc6w.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byyskrgrmqw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1rtzrwrhl4.
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What strand of Christianity gave birth to WTBTS?
by Band on the Run ini know about johnathan edwards and william miller being some of the forerunners of the wtbts.
how about much earlier in time?
was there a group during the middle ages or even earlier that preached something similar to the wt doctrine?
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ablebodiedman
I personally believe that Jehovah's Witnesses are the last (and final) iteration of Christianity.
If you condense the last 2000 years then you get:
Catholicism --- Roman and Orthodox - Ram with two horns. One taller than the other.
Protestantism -- He goat with one conspicuous horn - removed the monopolized power of Catholicism.
Protestantism reformed into essentialy 4 main groups - great horn broken and replaced by 4 horns
Out of one of the 4 horns a small horn grew all the way to the army of the heavens -- Jehovah's Witnesses.
Yes, the last 2000 years of Christianity is what Daniel Chapter 8 is all about.
abe
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What is the most damning watchtower publication?
by zound ini want to purchase a couple of vintage watchtower publications to help in my helping jw's break free.
some of the older ones are expensive or hard to come by - i know you can buy them on cd's but i'd like to own one or two of the "classics of propaganda"- some of the ones that speak for themselves as to the ridiculousness of this religion.. of course any magazine i pick up today speaks to me of the ridiculousness, but you need something much more hardcore for the jw's.. any recommendations?.
"children" has some pretty good quotes in it..
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ablebodiedman
Is there a PDF version of the proclaimers book that I can download?
Don't know.
You can buy a hard copy from $10 to $33 here:
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&tn=Proclaimers+of+Gods+Kingdom
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