the wt says apostates are satans puppets etc etc.
we are controlled by satan.. there is a faq on the website that asks can the devil control humans?
and answers with a resounding yes.
Not sure how it work however, I can see the evidence of it at work:
Millions Now Living Will Never Die.
They positively will not die.
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that somehow, as the serpent seduced Eve by its cunning, YOUR minds might be corrupted away from the sincerity and the chastity that are due the Christ.
So ..............................................................................
Whose minds are corrupted?
abe
it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.
he wrote things on rocks.
he gave them laws.
I am convinced the receipt of the mark of the wild beast through a a baptism re-invented by some reprehensile, presumtuous and self glorifying men is the fire that will cause enormous divisions within the ranks of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jehovah's Witnesses need to understand this.
The Ex-Jehovah's Witness community could light the fire!
Luke 12:49-53
49 "I came to start a fire on the earth, and what more is there for me to wish if it has already been lighted? 50 Indeed, I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and how I am being distressed until it is finished!51 Do YOU imagine I came to give peace on the earth? No, indeed, I tell YOU, but rather division. 52 For from now on there will be five in one house divided, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against [her] mother, mother-in-law against [her] daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against [her] mother-in-law."
abe
it seems that more often than not, when the watch tower society says something about biblical chronology, they're probably wrong.
this seems to be the case even for uncontroversial matters!
insight on the scriptures volume 1, page 584 states (bold formatting added):.
The retrofit of the '70 weeks' 'prophecy' to supposedly point to Jesus is a later Christian forgery. Their premise for shifting the reigns of Xerxes and Artaxerxes is therefore redundant.
Yes, this chronology is intended to pinpoint the; "going forth of the word to rebuild Jerusalem".
I suggest that this chronology is so far off that contending over these before Christ dates (BCE) dates is entirely redundant.
The going forth of the word to rebuild Jerusalem happened in the first Century!
You may not believe me however, perhaps you should give some credibility to the Apostles who seemed completely aware of this:
Acts 15:12-18
After they quit speaking, James answered, saying: "Men, brothers, hear me. 14 Sym´e·on has related thoroughly how God for the first time turned his attention to the nations to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And with this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 ‘After these things I shall return and rebuild the booth of David that is fallen down; and I shall rebuild its ruins and erect it again, 17 in order that those who remain of the men may earnestly seek Jehovah, together with people of all the nations, people who are called by my name, says Jehovah, who is doing these things, 18 known from of old.’
The Apostles came to terms with the fact that the "rebuilding prophecy" had just recently begun its fulfillment in the 1st Century!
Why can the Watchtower Society and everyone else not come to terms with something very straightforward and plainly written in the bible?
abe
it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.
he wrote things on rocks.
he gave them laws.
What the fuck are you on bro... LOL
This video is worthless and so are you areguments.
Let me guess you believe in aliens living among us reading our brainwaves at night time don't you
Yes, I know, next to the Ex-Jehovah's Witness community it is only the Jehovah's Witnesses themselves who are beyond the humility required to admit they are or have been victims of Satan's very spectacular and successful deception!
Satan's deception worked!
Exactly the way the bible said it would!
What an extraordinary book and incredible forsight of the one who inspired it.
The bible however, says that there would be people who battle against the wild beast and win!
It is in this Ex-Jehovah's Witness community that I see the battle in progress.
That is why I come here.
If this Ex-Jehovah's Witness community could come to terms with what I have posted in this thread then the battle would very quickly be won!
Prior to that happening however, a great deal of humility is required to come to terms with being an easy victim of Satans spectacular deceptions.
That is the hard part!
So what next?
abe
it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.
he wrote things on rocks.
he gave them laws.
i'm just back from the meeting where it was a video presentation given by the circuit overseer.
apparently it's not on general release, only being viewed during co visits at the moment.
top secret.
Ablebodiedman, what's the point in them translating their message in all the languages of the earth if the message itself is pure tripe?
A demonic and world wide enterprise designed to perpetrate an unrighteous deception to undermine everything that Jesus Christ initiated almost 2000 years ago!
Revelation 13:7
7 And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.
abe
i'm just back from the meeting where it was a video presentation given by the circuit overseer.
apparently it's not on general release, only being viewed during co visits at the moment.
top secret.
It is difficult to deny that the Watchtower Society outperforms by a quantum leap any other publishing companies ability to communicate on a global basis, in every nation and tongue.
It has no competition in that regard which I am aware of.
For this reason I am convinced that the Watchtower Society is also the frontrunner only candidate at present who could fulfill these prophetic scriptures:
Revelation 13:7
And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation
Revelation 17:15
And he says to me: "The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.
What other entity exists on this planet which is capable of deceiving people in every language?
I can find no other!
abe
it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.
he wrote things on rocks.
he gave them laws.
But hey, hold on!
That Baptismal vow is completely worthless until the baptismal candidate is fully immersed in water.
In fact, if the candidates body does not go competely under the water the audience in attendance would consider that baptism invalid!
So .............. what is the last part of the body to go under the water?
abe
it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.
he wrote things on rocks.
he gave them laws.
How about Baptism!
Doesn't every Jehovah's Witness have to make a Baptismal vow to God's Spirit Directed Organisation.
An act of worship to the wild beast!
Revelation 14:11
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.
abe
it seems for most of the bible that god spoke directly to people and told them what to do.
he wrote things on rocks.
he gave them laws.
The gb now number 8 - doesn't that mess with your allusion to '666'?
The Governing Body participate in 6 administrative committees that look after all the activities around the earth. Its not an allusion. Its what the page from the puplished Book posted above says. abe
