gone for good,
Millions Now Living Will Never Die --- they positively will not die.
abe
ablebodiedman
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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ablebodiedman
A coalition of the like-minded with an activist mindset armed with great ideas can make a HUGE DENT in the ignorance of the rank and file
Yep!
2 Corinthians 13:11
11 Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with YOU.
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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ablebodiedman
...for as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be...for wherever the carcass is, there
the eagles will be gathered together...
Yep!
abe
Ezekiel 43:7-9
"Son of man, [this is] the place of my throne and the place of the soles of my feet, where I shall reside in the midst of the sons of Israel to time indefinite; and no more will they, the house of Israel, defile my holy name, they and their kings, by their fornication and by the carcasses of their kings at their death, 8 by their putting their threshold with my threshold and their doorpost beside my doorpost, with the wall between me and them. And they defiled my holy name by their detestable things that they did, so that I went exterminating them in my anger. 9 Now let them remove their fornication and the carcasses of their kings far from me, and I shall certainly reside in the midst of them to time indefinite.
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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ablebodiedman
3.We decide what it is we DO want to do and how we DO want to do it.
I recommend we do what the bible says should be done.
Ezekiel 43:7-9
"Son of man, [this is] the place of my throne and the place of the soles of my feet, where I shall reside in the midst of the sons of Israel to time indefinite; and no more will they, the house of Israel, defile my holy name, they and their kings, by their fornication and by the carcasses of their kings at their death, 8 by their putting their threshold with my threshold and their doorpost beside my doorpost, with the wall between me and them. And they defiled my holy name by their detestable things that they did, so that I went exterminating them in my anger. 9 Now let them remove their fornication and the carcasses of their kings far from me, and I shall certainly reside in the midst of them to time indefinite.
In order for that to be successfull people will have to understand the connection between the "fornicating kings" in Ezekeil and the "fornicating kings" in the Book of Revelation.
It is the very last task that Christians need to accomplish.
Keep in mind however:
Daniel 11:32-35
32 "And those who are acting wickedly against [the] covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But as regards the people who are knowing their God, they will prevail and act effectively. 33 And as regards those having insight among the people, they will impart understanding to the many. And they will certainly be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for [some] days. 34 But when they are made to stumble they will be helped with a little help; and many will certainly join themselves to them by means of smoothness. 35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and to do a whitening, until the time of [the] end; because it is yet for the time appointed.
This is also where the "refining" happens.
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abe
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Two questions to make one think
by Rufus T. Firefly inhow do you think the wtb&ts (and the average jw) would answer the following two questions?
how would you answer them?.
(1) can one be a genuine christian without being a jw?.
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ablebodiedman
(1) Can one be a genuine Christian without being a JW? Yes, all you have to do is obey Jesus Christ! (2) Can one be an "exemplary" JW without being a genuine Christian? ALL Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians because they do not obey Jesus Christ: Luke 21:8 8 He said: “Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them. Do not go after them.............. Its a commandment from Jesus Christ! . see answer to #1 above . abe
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Where else to go.I sticking up for the WTS.
by joe134cd innow i am going to do a rear thing here and i am going to stick up for the wts.
i realise that the wts hasn't got the best of track record, and sure they have made mistakes.
but if i was to go to another church wouldn't they still have the same issues.
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ablebodiedman
I believe they're deluded, because they seem to regard themselves as mythological semi-gods ...ahem... kings of the heavenly kingdom, already chosen by Christ, and behave as if they're beyond any scrutiny from their brethren.
Absolutely!
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12
3 Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called "god" or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception(delusion) for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
Jehovah's Witnesses take pleasure in unrighteousness
They love THE LIE.
Millions Now Living Will Nver Die ............. They positively will not die!
The original sin!
Satan`s success has been spectacular!
abe
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Where else to go.I sticking up for the WTS.
by joe134cd innow i am going to do a rear thing here and i am going to stick up for the wts.
i realise that the wts hasn't got the best of track record, and sure they have made mistakes.
but if i was to go to another church wouldn't they still have the same issues.
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ablebodiedman
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2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
Millions Now Living Will Never Die ......... they positively will not die.
abe
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Where else to go.I sticking up for the WTS.
by joe134cd innow i am going to do a rear thing here and i am going to stick up for the wts.
i realise that the wts hasn't got the best of track record, and sure they have made mistakes.
but if i was to go to another church wouldn't they still have the same issues.
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ablebodiedman
You will not learn anything I have posted above from the WTS or any other Church!
The only place to learn this is in the Ex-Jehovah's Witness Community.
You need to come to terms with the fact that YOU are in the wilderness!
Revelation 12:14
14 But the two wings of the great eagle were given the woman, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place; there is where she is fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent.
You are also being helped by the Earth which has provided the Internet.
The best tool on the planet which is completely capable of swallowing up all those lies told by the Watchtower Society!
Revelation 12:16
But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon disgorged from its mouth
What! ......... is the Watchtower Society telling lies perpetrated by Satan?
Millions Now Living Will Never Die ......... they positively will not die.
abe
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Where else to go.I sticking up for the WTS.
by joe134cd innow i am going to do a rear thing here and i am going to stick up for the wts.
i realise that the wts hasn't got the best of track record, and sure they have made mistakes.
but if i was to go to another church wouldn't they still have the same issues.
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ablebodiedman
The best thing to be after being a Jehovah's Witness is to be an Ex-Jehovah's Witness.
Nothing else!
You are already in the place you need to be!
You need to be outside of Jesus Christs Kingdom (which is ruined) and waiting (in the wilderness) for the Fathers Kingdom:
The Fathers Kingdom:
Revelation 21:24-27
25 And its gates will not be closed at all by day, for night will not exist there. 26 And they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it. 27 But anything not sacred and anyone that carries on a disgusting thing and a lie will in no way enter into it; only those written in the Lamb’s scroll of life [will].
All you have to do to convince yourself that the Fathers Kingdom has absolutely nothing to do with the Watchtower Society is understand the implication of the above verse: and anyone that carries on a disgusting thing and a lie will in no way enter into it
The very last iteration of Christianity (Jehovah's Witnesses and all their predecessor denominations all the way back to Catholicism) will be completely destroyed when God sets up his Kingdom!
Daniel 2:44
44 "And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;
Perhaps some people do not think that Jesus Christs Kingdom has been ruined?
Do you have ears:
Matthew 13:39-43
. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.
Let him that has ears listen.
abe
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Are end time prophecies actually happening?
by ablebodiedman in.
thought this video about stuff happening in march was very profound:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=a2iwttdeoyu.
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ablebodiedman
Thought this video about stuff happening in March was very profound: