Posts by cattails

I think a GB group orgy picture with Fred Franz's oil painting overlooking would do the trick....

Nope. I do think it would just be a big shock but you can just see a WT article talking about how some in Bible times did likewise and were punished by God, such as the account of Balaam and once they have a scape goat the Society is scott free, they pass the blame and they keep on going their merry pharisaic way.

"Congregation Collapse Disorder" or "Congregation Publisher Depopulation Syndrome"

The CCD problem is clearly obvious when worker bees disappear, fade away, go away, pass away.

Every congregation of JW's has publishers that pass away due to illness and aging. Some fade away

because of being disenchanted or disinterested, stumbled or abused. Others go away due to DF/DAing.

It is natural for congregations to lose publishers from time to time and each new brood of publishers

takes time and effort to bring forth. When the mass of seemingly productive healthy publishers goes

down below a certain point, contributions to the Society will likely result in their being disbanded and

other congregations taking in whoever is left.

Some of the problems related to congregation failure that may be suggested are:

* Pressure from aggressive evangelizers invading the territory.

* Parasite "students" and "needy" publishers draining the energy of individuals in congregation.

* Regulations used against trespassers affects congregation publishers.

* Overworked publishers who spend ever more money and time in field service.

* Too much reliance on foreign language groups and foreign branches for numbers growth.

* Changes in cultural climate.

Let's justify each of the above categories:

* Pressure from aggressive evangelizers invading the territory.

Imagine the effect of one Church in the local area that devotes time to witness in the territory against the WT and the local KH, with pamphlets, with free Bibles, with free Bible Studies and promises to teach the Truth of the Gospel without subservience to a Religious Publishing Corporation.
Some Churches are actively seeking how to help ExJWs and JWs http://www.channelc.org/ChCForum/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=1&msgid=1031

* Parasite "students" and "needy" publishers draining the energy of individuals in congregation.

Imagine the effect of a group of volunteers in a local area sending in Study Requests to the Branch, receiving calls, only to show up and nobody is there, and then get calls to KH saying why nobody has visited? Write Branch requesting why nobody visits. If they come again, be an HBH (home but hiding). If you want the challenge invite them on a first call, call every night with a different question. Say you've been looking things in the Internet and want sincere answers to your questions. Be "needy" ask for help, ask for elders telephone/cellphone numbers call them, ask questions. Leave messages with wives, if they call back, use CID and don't answer. Leave a message again the next day why nobody has called, write the Branch that nobody calls back. If you can stand it get involved in a weekly study and request free literature from publisher, ask for expensive books, Proclaimers, Insight volumes, LARGE PRINT 4 volume NWT, Chinese Pin-Yin Bible, Diaglott, KIT NT, write in requesting Braille. Request large print items to place with your elderly grandma. Don't contribute via publisher. Visit KH if you have to, put in blank piece of paper or better yet, a Beth Sarim check or CT Russell dollar bill into contribution box.

* Regulations used against trespassers affects congregation publishers.

Imagine a campaign to give away free signs that keep away unwanted Religious Literature Publishers, call it the Neighbors Outreach Against Unsolicited Religious Literature, and the signs could read "RELIGIOUS LITERATURE PUBLISHERS KEEP OUT! PRIVATE PROPERTY: NO TRESPASSING FOR RELIGIOUS SOLICITATION. And accompany these signs with contacts who would take down infractions, make records of these unsolicited visits, and help contact authorities.

* Overworked publishers who spend ever more money and time in field service.

Imagine if you added to the field service chore if you requested a visit to some outlaying territory, only the car group runs into a N.O.A.U.R.L. Keep Out/No Trespassing sign, and there's nobody home except a video camera recording the infringement of posted request for no trespassing. Follow up by complaining about call.

* Too much reliance on foreign language groups and foreign branches for numbers growth.

Imagine if you had pamphlets in foreign languages, Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, photocopied and given to Restaurant help and other businesses in area, reach out to people with foreign names in telephone book and warn about Religious Literature Publishers from the local KH. Don't just be content with having them say No to the WT, but actually have them contact relatives and warn them.

* Changes in cultural climate.

Imagine if you could use networking sites to expose active Publishers to Truths about the WTS. If they responded favorably encourage them, keep them as an asset for cause, ask if they'd be a mole. Those that oppose and are too brainwashed, print out chats, MySpace pages, photos, etc. and send to local elders, but not only them, also send out to older single sisters undergoing menopause. Expose school age publishers to materials from Combatting Mind Control, Crisis of Conscience, In Search for Christian Freedom. Give rebellious teenagers the fuel of Truth against the WTS.

A congregation which could collapse from CCD would be characterized by these conditions:

• Complete absence of mature publishers in meetings for field service, with little or no building-up of the publishers by the elders.
• Absence of young ones at meetings. Get teens to actively witness to teens against the WTS with photocopies and proofs of WTS fumbling dates and flip-flops.
• Presence of overstocking of literature, going unused and sitting on shelf at literature counter.

Precursor symptoms that may arise before the final congregation collapse are:

• Insufficient publishers to maintain meetings for field service.
• Insufficient funds at end of month to cover KH expenses.
• Counter-publishing workforce seems to be made up of young publishers with a bent on rebelling against WTS.
• The congregation members are reluctant to consume religious literature and attend meetings.

anti-remedies

The following are creative recommendations for increasing the symptoms of CCD.

1. Combining of collapsing cogregations with strong congregations, will expose the strong congregation to disorder.
2. When a congregation collapses make sure to arrange for new congregation to have have access to reasons why other congregation failed.
3. Feeding local publishers juicy gossip about congregation members.
4. Congregations experiencing problems receive visits from CO, or even better, from DO, receive complaints about elders, pioneers, exemplary publishers who aren't so exemplary.

Any comments on the beehive CCD idea I posted earlier?

Comments welcome.

Bonafide still reads this forum, I'm sure.

CURRENT MASON

Hmmm... Hey WAC, does that mean that you gave up your IT career and are now laying bricks for a living or that you're one of those guys who likes to greet other guys with secret handshakes?

She'll get private counsel like Michael did, like the Williams sisters probably have, like Prince is getting, the mind control and coercion can be subtle too without much fanfare, they call that shepherding, didn't you know.

No you can't enter 0 for listeners. I've tried.

Also the service at least at our congregation are provided by a company by the name of KHConf it was suggested by a CO that our congregation make use of it as we had so many elderly and impaired who were getting delivered cassette tapes.

Thanks Cattails, sure nothing corporate about that, right?

Righ. And how about the part where MinServs don't get access to the View Forms - Restricted area?

So much secrecy for a school schedule... knowledge is power!

http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15130

Well, iloowey provides a schedule and they say the schedule is not available for the whole year to the members

At the Extj.com forum there's also a pdf of the English letter to BOE's explaining the procedures for downloading future correspondence from the Branch.

http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15130

Here's the text of the letter below, is this is for real, you think so? If so, there's got to be some good moles around in the Spanish JW circles. They've even got the Spanish schedule up as well.

TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN THE UNITED STATES

Re: Schedule and review answer sheet for Theocratic Ministry School

Dear Brothers:

As announced in the October 2009 Our Kingdom Ministry, the yearly schedule for the

Theocratic Ministry School will no longer appear in Our Kingdom Ministry. In view of this adjustment,

effective immediately, the schedule should be printed from the Forms section of the

jw.org Web site under the Documents tab. It is visible to all those who have the View

Forms—General role. One copy of the schedule should be posted on the information board at the

Kingdom Hall and another copy should be retained by the school overseer for his use in making

assignments. Hard copies will not be provided by the branch office.

We also wish to inform you of an adjustment in how the review answer sheet for the

Theocratic Ministry School will be provided. Rather than hard copies being sent with the

monthly congregation statement mailing, effective immediately, the answer sheets should be

printed from the Forms section of the jw.org Web site and then given to the school overseer. The

answer sheets are only visible to those who have the View Forms—Restricted role.

As a reminder, an elder, preferably the coordinator of the body of elders, should check

the jw.org Web site each week for new forms and letters. Please remember, too, that ministerial

servants should not be given the View Forms—Restricted role or any View Letters role.

Thank you for noting these adjustments. We send our warm Christian love.

Your brothers,

cc: Traveling overseers

PS to secretary:

This letter should be retained in the congregation file along with other letters related to

the jw.org Web site.