Posts by Heaven

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Would the discovery of EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE completely debunk the bible and religion?

by Black Man in

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i think it would.

instantly.

in fact, i hope one day soon that we somehow encounter extraterrestrial life because i think there would be a wholesale rejection of the bible and any/all religious institutions.

Heaven

Last week, the Kepler mission discovered another Earth-like planet, Kepler 452b, which is being deemed "Earth's bigger, older cousin" located about 1,400 light years from Earth in the habitable zone of a star similar to ours (aka a yellow dwarf). This brings the total number of confirmed planets to 1,030. Last year was Kepler 186f, 490 light years from Earth and very close in size to our planet in the habitable zone of a red dwarf star/sun. See the Kepler 452b briefing here:

Kepler 452b Briefing Materials

We now know that Earth-like planets located in the 'habitable zone' of stars do exist. The Earth is not a unique planet. We don't know yet if any of these harbour life but at least we know there is more than 1 Class-M planet in the universe so it is very possible there is or was life on these planets. I wish I could be alive when they find out. THAT would be so exciting.

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Grandchildren pay for the sins of their parents.

by Bonsai in

my wife's mother just related to us an interview she heard during the recent three day convention that she just had to share with us.

a brother and his wife have, for over 20 years, shunned their daughter because she ran off and eloped with a worldly guy.

while openly sobbing, he related how difficult it has been to shun his daughter and avoid unnecessary contact with her and her family.

Heaven

I think it was back in around 2009 one of the ragazines came out with a cover entitled something like "Do you Know Your Children?"

It was one of the last times my Dad was able to come to my house. He had the magazine in his hand, pointed to the cover, and got all choked up.

He did not know his children nor his grandchildren. His shunning of his children did not convince them to return to Jehovah. It convinced them that Jehovah is a douche-bag.

This religion has many issues. Destruction of families is just one of their legacies.

Can't you just feel the love?

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Tim Horton's sucks. I thought it was supposed to be good?

by SnakesInTheTower in

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friends

so my wife and i went to th yesterday.

the chain started opening stores in the st. louis, mo area about a month ago.

by now the bugs should be worked out.

Heaven

It is all about choice and what level of quality you are looking for.

Snakes, why don't you take what you posted in your OP and send an email off to Timmy's complaining? See what happens. Just a thought.

In one of my local Timmy's they have this cool little fireplace and some chairs around it that they've recently put in. It's quite nice. Kinda like this one:

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Tim Horton's sucks. I thought it was supposed to be good?

by SnakesInTheTower in

jw
friends

so my wife and i went to th yesterday.

the chain started opening stores in the st. louis, mo area about a month ago.

by now the bugs should be worked out.

Heaven

I like their Grilled Breakfast Bacon Wraps. Yum!

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"Don't you love Jehovah anymore then ?"

by Phizzy in

mrs phizzy ran into a jw lady from a neighbouring congo who has known us since we were teenagers, before we married, sometime in the pleistocene era lol.. during the conversation said lady asked if mrs phizzy was going to the r.c, to which mrs phizzy replied, "oh you haven't heard, we no longer go to meetings".. the jw lady then came back with the question in the thread title, which mrs phizzy handled well.. the point of this is though, what a god-awful, stupid, cult-minded question to ask !.

did she think we woke up one morning and thought "we don't love god anymore" ??

would that happen to anyone ?.

Heaven

This is the response I wish to give one day:

"When I was a child I used to believe. I also believed in The Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and The Easter Bunny. Silent and invisible Bronze and Iron Age Middle Eastern deities are a product of the human imagination and nothing more. I have finally grown up."

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DOES BELIEF IN THE BIBLE DESTROY ONE'S INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY?

by TerryWalstrom in

based on information to be found at: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/when_dont_the_highly_educated_believe_in_evolution_the_bible_believers_effe/.

the bible-believers effect.

those who believe the bible is the word of god (bible believers) and those who dont believe the bible is the word of god (bible nonbelievers) differ in their beliefs that humans evolved from earlier species of animals.

Heaven

I feel belief in the Bible definitely hinders one's intellectual capacity. I don't think it destroys it in all cases. I cite myself as one such person. Luckily, I chose to be intellectually honest with myself and examine evidence. A requirement of faith is to abandon this, along with logic and reason.

At the very least, as LisaRose stated, people of faith are mentally lazy. At the worst, they are willfully ignorant, intellectually dishonest. Some become extremist/fundamentalist.

At some point, every single person of faith is confronted with factual evidence that refutes their belief/faith. It is at this moment that a person must choose to be willfully ignorant and intellectually dishonest or accept the evidence and begin the work of figuring out exactly what their faith really means.They are forced to step outside their comfort zone or remain in it and become insular and stunted.

Just because someone WANTS something to be true, does not mean that it is.

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Elderly sister disgusted with obscene Bethel 'Happy Song'

by Esse quam videri in

it is reported that one elderly sister in british columbia expressed complete disgust at what she considered an obscene act in the bethel 'happy song'.

now everything is, of course, subject to perspective.

i would imagine her perspective is just as valuable as anyone elses.

Heaven

Perhaps as you get older, normal things appear obscene.

My father, with his dementia, found newspaper ads for perfume with women dressed in evening gowns to be 'nudey pictures' and would rip them out and crumple them up in disgust.

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Do you celebrate National Junk food day. July 26th. My suggestion, a Gripe Day.

by James Mixon in

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friends

some of you may find this to be silly, a grip day.. ok, how many knew we have these days.. 1)national fast food day.

2) chick-fil-a , annual cow appreciation day.

july 14.

Heaven

I had an ice cream drumstick today. Does that count as celebrating?

Edited to add: I actually like your idea of a Cousin's Day. I have some awesome cousins.

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What are you up to this summer?

by Xanthippe in

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friends

i really enjoy hearing about other people's lives.

feeling a little lonely this evening so please tell me if you have plans for the summer months.

i may go to some outdoor theatre with my daughter who's home from uni; with a picnic and a bottle of wine.

Heaven

My summer is being consumed with getting my Dad's contents ready for auction. Once that's done, the next phase is dumpster and getting anything done to sell his house. So not much fun for me this year. Will be happy when it's all done.

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I was encourage to read the Bible, but the correct Bible

by John Aquila in

i got a brief email of encouragement today.

i was told i need to read the bible, but the correct bible before it's to late.

the sign that the end is close is very obvious-(gay marriage is legal) .

Heaven

There is no such thing as a correct Bible.

What we have today are copies of copies of copies, etc, etc. The originals are long gone. From the copies of copies of copies, etc, mistakes were made during those copying processes due to the fact that they were manually copied time and again. The Bible cannot be viewed as 100% accurate.