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Mattieu
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Holy Crap! I've been doing it wrong all these years!!!
by Elsewhere in.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2407/2507379082_4b1d01534a.jpg .
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My JW Life... (LONG)
by silent ini never, ever thought i would ever be posting on a board such as this but here i am.
i've been reading the boards for several months and despite my initial conscience twinges, i couldn't help but follow a logical thought process on many issues that were causing me grief.
over this past week, due to the things i've read on here, i've had a massive cloud lift from me and i'm starting to feel joy and love in my heart that i've *never* felt before.
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Mattieu
G'day Silent, so glad to have you here alive and one piece! I enjoyed your life story and can certainly relate to some parts.
Mattieu.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-03-09 WT Study (LAMB)
by blondie inevidence of god's confidence in the anointed, who "keep following the lamb no matter where he goes.
16 "my sheep listen to my voice," said jesus, "and i know them, and they follow me.
what shows that jesus christ completely trusts the slave class?
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Mattieu
Thanks for your effort this week Blondie despite life being so hectic.
If there is ever a w/t that will cause a serious Bible student or someone with an inkling of an “independent spirit” to stop and think what a load of crap, it will be this one.
Questions such as:
What evidence is there that Jehovah trusts the faithful and discreet slave?
What shows that Jesus Christ completely trusts the slave class?Yet, the w/t in trying to answer those questions gives no solid proof! It quotes a few misapplied scriptures, goes in circles hoping that it has lost the majority of dubs who will be sitting there like robots smiling, putting their hands up and answering word for word what the paragraph says. Then the conductor will say “thank you for that insightful comment Brother Buttlicker, are we not appreciative that we belong to such a loving congregation?”
Brothers and sisters will go home or in service saying what a great watchtower today (mind you, most will be saying that to sound spiritual. Like I used to towards the end...)
It cannot just be me who read this week’s w/t and thought that this article lacked substance or foundation. Any high school teacher that had this article presented to them in a debating class would have given it a big F! (For fail.........)
Mattieu.
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What famous "Talks" do you remember that you heard as a Witness?
by BonaFide inmy favorites that i heard in person or had on tape, well they were my favorites:.
are we really in the last days?
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Mattieu
Can you Sleep on a Windy Night? - Can't remember speaker
The last few hours of Jesus' Life - Can't remember speaker
We have both those tapes on cassette at home somewhere, used to listen to "The Last Few Hours" before every memorial....
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The "faithful and discreet slave class" - Past, Present and Future
by truthseeker iniv) believe that jesus christ is mediator for "the faithful and discreet slave".
today, that "slave" is represented by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
5. elders.
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Mattieu
Truhseeker, great job! Nothing like coming to work on a Saturday morning and enjoying a good read that once again exposes a certain amount of fraudulence in the w/t doctrines. I am certain that 99.99% of publishers could not explain the current understanding on any of the major w/t doctrines let lone the official view of the anointed class.
Thanks again,
Mattieu
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we dont know them..the GB...anyone ever use that?.......
by oompa ini mean all these rules and structures and teachings.......come from some changing guys we dont even know......and ya...these guys change about every year...an so does what they teach......but i dont know a single one of them..........oompa.
yet........damm........i lived over forty years trying to do what they say........never even knew em.......damm i was not lucky from birth......nlfb....
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Mattieu
I know someone who knew someone’s Uncle’s cousins sisters friend who met someone who saw a gb during a Bethel tour.
No seriously, my mate came back from a visit to Brooklyn bethel and had photos of one of the gb in the socialising room; they were having some sort of gathering. I will never forget when Franz came to Melbourne back in 88 or 89 I think it was (Royal Melbourne Showgrounds). After the final hour long prayer, the arena grounds filled with the r & f running to the stage as he got off, it took him an hour to leave the arena. It was loony, particularly when one brother came running back yelling “I touched him!” No joke, true story.
But I agree Oompa, they make all these rules, some of which totally screw up people’s lives (blood issue for instance) but when the whole thing goes pear shape, they wipe their hands and introduce “new light” and then have the audacity to say “we never printed or said that”. And when you show them that they did say that, the table is turned on you for being nitpicky/negative and you sound like an apostate!
Matieu.
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New convention releases?
by TheOldHippie inany new books or brochures or tracts or whatever at this year's conventions?.
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Mattieu
1 - Coupon Books with discount gasoline coupons to enable the book study to be reinstated.
2 – “Advertise Advertise Advertise New Light”
3 – “How to win friends and influence people (NGO version)”
4 – “Babylon the Great has fallen and we fell too!”
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The Horsemen of the Apocalypse
by snowbird inthe official wt stance is that these horsemen began their ride in 1914.. at the time i began my "bible study" with the jw's, i bought into that with all the zeal of an old testament prophet.. however, i submit if those horsemen set out in 1914, they either lost their way and vanished, or the horses ditched their riders and returned to their stables.. what say you?.
sylvia.
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Mattieu
Brokeback Mountain has gone apocalyptic
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6/15 WT- GB More Powerful than Worldwide Anointed- Don't Judge Partaking
by flipper inmore of the latest from the june 15th " witness only " watchtower.
under the article " the faithful steward and it's governing body " there were some very telling quotes which could indicate how the wt society is tightening the control of it's members - and trying to justify more partaking of the emblems at the memorial since the numbers partaking have gone up from about 8,000 to 10,000 since they no longer feel that the sealing of the anointed ended in 1935.. so first off, notice this quote indicating the importance of elevating the governing body over the rest of the anointed around the earth.
paragraph 16 it states , " are all these anointed ones throughout the earth part of a global network that is somehow involved in revealing new spiritual truths ?
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Mattieu
Flipper, I just had confirmed yesterday that a very prominent elder in our city (on every committee and subcommittee and sub sub subcommittee ...) who is used at all the c/ass, d/ass and international’s has outed himself as an anointed at this year’s memorial.
This elder is such a political heavyweight here in Australia, aged about 58, constant trips to Sydney Bethel and even NYC, lots of contacts and allies (and a few enemies). He speaks in the most condescending manner and does the fake smiles from the platform, fake warmth, but I digress...
My point is that I am sure that there are a number of powerbroker brothers like him that will come out of the woodwork and claim to be anointed. This article will prevent them from wanting to take on an even more prominent role perhaps??? More like the GB recognising that yes, the number of partakers is going to increase, but you are not special or powerful, only us GB’s are all powerful (insert mad insane power drunk laugh here).
Mattieu.
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Mattieu
We have this anointed brother who is about 39 years of age, reg pioneer (anointed the last 6 years) cannot be made an MS due to the fact that he does not have a scriptural divorce (he used to beat the crap out of his ex wife and step kids, got nasty, police involved). The elders love him, yet all the sisters know he is weird and a sleaze and no one and I mean no one will let their kids near him (he keeps offering to babysit other people's kids)
Why, oh why do all the elders and c/o love him??? Yes he kisses butts, though if everyone else can see through the charade, why can’t these supposedly older men??
At the memorial he did the count, so as he crunched on the bread and I mean crunch (you could hear him eating it from the car park) he is walking around the back of the hall doing the count and eating away as if it is a piece of gum!!!! So much for that solemn experience being about reflection...........
Odd, very odd....