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  Good Reasons To Hate Every Weak And Ex-Jehovah Witness.

  by AuntConnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. my husband's time is finite, it's wasted on spouses arguing over money, sex or family mattters with stupid home visits.. .

  i hate people's constant open hand for money, it's the weak individuals asking others to pull their weight.

  my family worked extra hours instead of begging the strong members for district assembly money, cat food for seven cats or tiny little rag-a-muffins weiner dogs.. .

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  DNCall

  Welcome AuntConnie. I can only wish you an improved life, whatever form that takes!
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  Conti v Watchtower - November 26 court documents in pdf

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jw leaks has published the latest court documents, in pdf, relating to "candace conti vs the watchtower bible and tract society of new york" as certified on november 26, 2012.. .

  clerk's notice re certification of record on appeal to the court of appeals.. .

  jw leaks.

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  DNCall

  I posted this in its own thread:

  The California State Court of Appeal has set January 7, 2013 as the deadline for Watchtower to submit its opening brief (Appellant's Brief). Watchtower may seek a continuance or extension of the deadline for more time to prepare as these are easily obtained, at least in the initial stages. On the other hand, the interest clock is ticking. After the Appellant's Brief is filed, Candace will have 30 days to file her Respondent's Brief unless a continuance is needed. After that, Watchtower will file a Reply Brief. The Court will set a date for oral argument and after that will usually take the matter under submission. Sometimes a final order can take months to be issued.

  Hopefully, we'll be able to see the Watchtower's arguments in the next month or so.

  The Court of Appeal does not have the online feature of downloading documents. For Barbara or anyone else who wants to obtain copies of documents, you can hire an attorney service to copy the documents and e-mail them to you. If you need help with this, you can PM me.
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  Conti: WTS Opening Brief Due in Appeal

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the california state court of appeal has set january 7, 2013 as the deadline for watchtower to submit its opening brief (appellant's brief).

  watchtower may seek a continuance or extension of the deadline for more time to prepare as these are easily obtained, at least in the initial stages.

  on the other hand, the interest clock is ticking.

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  DNCall

  The California State Court of Appeal has set January 7, 2013 as the deadline for Watchtower to submit its opening brief (Appellant's Brief). Watchtower may seek a continuance or extension of the deadline for more time to prepare as these are easily obtained, at least in the initial stages. On the other hand, the interest clock is ticking. After the Appellant's Brief is filed, Candace will have 30 days to file her Respondent's Brief unless a continuance is needed. After that, Watchtower will file a Reply Brief. The Court will set a date for oral argument and after that will usually take the matter under submission. Sometimes a final order can take months to be issued.

  Hopefully, we'll be able to see the Watchtower's arguments in the next month or so.

  The Court of Appeal does not have the online feature of downloading documents. For Barbara or anyone else who wants to obtain copies of documents, you can hire an attorney service to copy the documents and e-mail them to you. If you need help with this, you can PM me.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses dismayed by new magazine format from Watchtower Society.

  by Balaamsass in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wow.

  i was surprised this week by calls from active jws complaining about the new magazine format, and more begging for money from the platform.. frankly i was surprized by this reaction since this is old news to jwn members.

  i guess actually shuffling to the bookroom and grabbing the new "awake tracts" minus the inside cover forward ...awakened many sleepy, catatonic, bored jws who never read the things or go on the internet anyway.. any feedback from other areas?.

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  DNCall

  Such bad food . . . and such small portions.
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  WT Elders school: Look how cute that kindly old elder is! Too bad the Talmud says we have to stone our victim anyway

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  more haphazard thougths on the recently concluded elder school..... a big chunk of time was spent on a video which traced a judicial case, all the way from the confession to the elders through the decision to disfellowship the guy.. here is a very brief synopsis of the video:.

  tearful late-teen or early-20's publisher confesses to 2 elders that he committed fornication with a "worldly girl" who is now preganant and wants to marry him.

  the elders give him some "homework" to do prior to his judcial committee - read psalm 51 and an old wt article.

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  A Watchtower article in the 1950s stated that the Society does not provide a Talmud covering every situation. Unfortunately over the decades since, the Society has been in fact compiling a Talmud, as referenced in Sir82’s subject line.

  The downside for the Society in spoon-feeding instructions via video presentation to the elders is that it then creates a dependency for similar direction on every conceivable issue. The increased liability (greater opportunity for error) that this creates along with the time and resources to attempt something like this would be so costly as to be prohibitive.

  Having now gone down this path, it will be fascinating to see where it leads.
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  Conti v Watchtower - Court Denies Watchtower Motion re: Substituting Bond - November 16 court documents in pdf

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jw leaks has published the latest court documents, in pdf, relating to "candace conti v the watchtower bible and tract society of new york" as filed on november 16, 2012.. the watchtower society motion to substitute or reduce bond on appeal is denied.. www.jwleaks.org.

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  Well, Ann, I got caught up in the speculation, hence my comments. I think you are right regarding settlement.
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  question re: conti case appeal/ legal question

  by drewcoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this may have been answered before, but i would like to know if the appeal basically re-tries the case or if the wt has to argue that the original trial wasn't conducted properly.

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  in other words, is an appeal in a civil trial like this basically starting from scratch, or is it a trial concerning alleged errors in the first trial.. (i'm on heavy duty medication and having a little trouble articulating my question.

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  DNCall

  Also, the appellate court has the option of remanding the case back to the lower court to resolve any issues it finds, depending on the nature of those issues. It's not just a matter of overturning the case versus letting the judgment stand.
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  Conti v Watchtower - Court Denies Watchtower Motion re: Substituting Bond - November 16 court documents in pdf

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  jw leaks has published the latest court documents, in pdf, relating to "candace conti v the watchtower bible and tract society of new york" as filed on november 16, 2012.. the watchtower society motion to substitute or reduce bond on appeal is denied.. www.jwleaks.org.

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  DNCall

  Re Candace's accepting a settlement offer to compensate Rick Simons, I think 144,001 has layed out the facts pretty well. Of course all of this is speculation, but if Mr. Simons is the advocate he appears to be and his firm is in healthy financial shape, he might possibly stay the course and advise Candace not to settle. The risk is to, in effect, have represented Candace pro bono. The reward is to garner the reputation for himself and his firm of being vigorous advocates, fighting for what is right. Even if the case is overturned on appeal, whatever is learned in the appeal process can be applied in the representation of future clients that are in a similar situation to Candace. I really hope Candace, Mr. Simons and his firm are able to stay the course. However, whatever happens, as 144,001 has already stated, any decision they make deserves respect.
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  For Ethos: The Basis of Christian Unity

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  continued from: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/241969/3/greetings-from-an-existent-jw.

  a repost from re: greetings!

  from an existent jw.

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  In case Ethos reads this: What you perceive as Christian unity is in reality enforced uniformity. Having served as an elder for 26 years I can tell you that, in reality, there are many different approaches that publishers take to the Witness religion. You have the whole range between secretly disobedient to agressively beyond obedient, and everything in between. The majority go through the same prescribed motions (i.e., meetings, field service, conventions), giving the appearance of unity. However, many hold in contempt others in the religion who do not take the same approach that they do--a far cry from the love among themselves that Jesus said would identify his true followers.
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  New Light or A More Tangled Web?

  by DNCall in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  DNCall

  Apognophos, to what are you referring when you say, "After all, 1919 is a concrete date where something actually happened with respect to the Witness organization . . ."?