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  The Tetragrammaton...And The Inserted Vowels

  by titch in

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  for any and all persons who may have been associated with jehovah's witnesses in the past (or currently), you have probably read, or heard information about the origin of the name "jehovah.

  " as explained by witnesses, and even other religious groups, the name jehovah is merely the anglicized (or, english-language) version of the so-called "divine name.

  " the thinking is that in the original hebrew language, the "divine name" was originally represented by these four english consonants: jhvh; some persons think that it might have been yhvh.

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  DNCall

  Dear AGuest,

  Your response was illuminating indeed. Thank you for your time and energies.

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  The Tetragrammaton...And The Inserted Vowels

  by titch in

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  for any and all persons who may have been associated with jehovah's witnesses in the past (or currently), you have probably read, or heard information about the origin of the name "jehovah.

  " as explained by witnesses, and even other religious groups, the name jehovah is merely the anglicized (or, english-language) version of the so-called "divine name.

  " the thinking is that in the original hebrew language, the "divine name" was originally represented by these four english consonants: jhvh; some persons think that it might have been yhvh.

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  DNCall

  It was considered blasphemy, among the Jews, to utter the divine name when Jesus walked the earth. When Jesus was cited by them for blasphemy, it was because he called himself the "Son of God," not because he uttered the Divine Name. I have never found any hard evidence that Jesus ever uttered the Divine Name when he was on earth.

  The 3rd and 2nd Century BCE Jews understood that their imperfections and misdeeds would attach to the Divine Name, violating its sanctity. Therefore, to this day, the Jewish people not only do not attempt to utter the Divine Name, they use devices such as "G-d" and "HaShem."

  The Witnesses reject this reasoning and as a result, their admitted imperfections are closely associated with the name "Jehovah," thus violating any sanctity that name may have.

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  A letter to my parents stating I dont believe in the Org anymore.

  by cyberjesus in

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  i just sent this letter to my dad 3 days ago.

  i roughly translated it from spanish, so it has many weird sounding sentences but i just wanted to shared it with the board.

  practically i just say good-bye to my family.

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  The honesty and sincerity of your letter are moving and enlightening. Your letter should be Exhibit "A" to the contention, mostly advanced in Europe, that Jehovah's Witnesses undermine families.

  Your letter overflows with thoughtfulness and love.

  Well done.

  DNCall
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  Inside Brother Prince's World

  by frozen one in

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  http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/07/05/prince-world-exclusive-interview-peter-willis-goes-inside-the-star-s-secret-world-115875-22382552/.

  here's his converted to jw girlfriend, bria valente:.

  i wonder if chaperones are required when they want to be together?.

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  About a year and a half ago, I had dinner with a group of JWs that included Ms./Sister Valente. We dined at Ocean Avenue Seafood in Santa Monica. I was with her when valet parking delivered her white Mercedes S500-plus to the curb. I figured at that point that she would ride the Prince train until the lease was up on the Mercedes, and then she'd bail.

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  Recollections of Ted Jaracz (edited title to not confuse with poster "TJ")

  by DNCall in

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  startfragment.

  barbara anderson described ted jaracz as kind and nice to outsiders in the congregations, but mean as all get out to the average bethelite worker, sometimes seeming like two different people in one body.

  i think that is a fair assessment based on what i had observed over the years.

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  Barbara Anderson described Ted Jaracz as “‘ kind and nice to outsiders in the congregations,’ but ‘mean as all get out’ to the average Bethelite worker, sometimes seeming like two different people in one body. ” I think that is a fair assessment based on what I had observed over the years. While I was an object of his affection, I could see the fear of him present in many of his fellow workers at Bethel.

  I met Ted and Melita when I was a pre-teen. Ted was in transition from his assignment in Australia to a somewhat unknown future back in the U.S. For a period of less than six months, Ted and Melita were assigned to the Beverly Hills Congregation where I attended with my parents. My parents had Ted and Melita over to our house many times during that period and they became close friends. I can remember on at least two occasions playing miniature golf with Ted, Melita and my parents. Ted would always place first, then me, then my father. I don’t think Melita and my mother ever kept score.

  My father used to speak of a return visit that he invited Ted on. The person was quite miserable actually. He felt he wanted to die because he couldn’t do many of the things he used to do, including mowing the lawn. Ted argued that he didn’t really want to die because everyone really wants to live. The man argued this point with Ted until Ted ended the argument by saying that if he really wanted to die he should go out and mow the lawn.

  When Ted went on the road as a District Overseer, he was assigned to Southern California for a time. On occasion, my parents and I would travel to Circuit Assemblies where he would be and we would go out for dinner afterwards. When Ted and Melita traveled from one circuit to the next, Melita would sit in the back seat where she set up a portable desk and she would type Ted’s talks. This typifies Melita’s devotion to Ted. Although she could be very direct in dealing with others, she was completely submissive to and almost worshipful of Ted. For years after my father died, my mother would receive cards and letters from Ted and/or Melita, it seemed almost monthly. Now that Ted is gone, I would guess that Melita will, if not live with, at least spend more time with her family in Chilliwack, B.C.

  For about 20 years, I would go back to Bethel to work on the Society’s music projects, sometimes twice a year. I don’t think there was ever a time when I was in Brooklyn, or later Patterson, that Ted didn’t call, usually to invite me to dinner in their room. On one such occasion Ted took delight in describing in detail how one night after the Service Meeting he was handed “the big envelope from the Governing Body” informing him that he had been chosen to join their ranks. On another evening, I was part of a group invited to dinner. One of the guests directed a really inane Bible question to Ted. Ted didn’t touch it, but rather redirected it to those of us who were there. As I recall, a few gave some speculative comments, but the question was eventually given a proper burial without Ted ever having commented.

  When Bethel was being outfitted with computer systems, I asked Ted if he had a computer yet. He said he read in an in-flight magazine that computers were for staff, not management, so he didn’t think he would need one.

  My father spoke of “back in the day” having Scriptural discussions with Ted. One involved my father arguing that betting on a horse race isn’t any different than playing the stock market. Ted’s position wasn’t based on a particular scripture but rather on the supposition that it would be hard to witness to someone on Sunday who had seen you placing a bet the day before. I bring this up because in the years I knew him, we never discussed anything of real substance. I only broached a serious subject with him on two occasions as I recall. One was when the GB decided not to release the vocal album that was eventually leaked on the Internet. I wrote him a letter pleading with him to defer to the musical sensibilities of the professional musicians who produced it and argued that, if they released it, it would be one of the best-received Society products ever. I also mentioned that I was not asking him to respond to my letter. He never did, and in the few times I saw or spoke to him afterward, he never brought it up. The other was during an international convention held at the Long Beach Arena. Ted pretty much had the final word on convention arrangements in his capacity on the Teaching Committee. Our congregation was assigned to that convention and it was evident that there were too many congregations assigned. It was standing room only and parking was a nightmare. During one of the talks, I asked Ted to come with me to the convention floor. I had him look up at the walkways that ringed the arena. The crowd was six deep in the walkways. I pointed out that the convention was way over-booked. It was then that I encountered what others describe as “the brick wall.” Ted’s response was that the friends just like to come to these things.

  Perhaps these recollections help illustrate the intriguing “two different people in the same body.”
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  New Light

  by faundy in

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  hello, just wondering if anyone could concisely tell me what the 'new light' is?

  something about armageddon being further away than thought?

  i just don't want to trawl through loads to get to the answer!

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  DNCall

  "He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed
  who were on hand when the sign began to become
  evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other
  anointed ones who would see the start of the great
  tribulation."

  It would only have been evident if Jesus had said: "Those whose lives overlap the generation that sees all these things will be no means pass away until all these things occur." Since Jesus said nothing of the sort, it is only "evident" to those who stubbornly cling to an erroneous chronology.
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  Check Out Today's Daily Beast (online)

  by DNCall in

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  and search under jenny hollowell.

  her book is due out in june.

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  DNCall

  . . . and search under Jenny Hollowell. Her book is due out in June.
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  Since Leaving "The Truth" Are You Really Happier?

  by minimus in

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  witnesses say that when people leave "the truth", they get involved in a debauched life, misery, and general unhappiness.. they give experiences of some that left the "sweet fellowship" of the "brotherhood" and the awful results because of it.

  then, they come back and their lives change 100% for the better!.

  have you found life to be miserable and unproductive since "leaving jehovah"?.

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  DNCall

  Happier/more productive.

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  How to look up pretrial cases online?

  by cognac in

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  there is a jw who just had his pretrial for shaking his baby to death.

  is there any way to look it up online to read the transcript of it?.

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  DNCall

  Not sure what you mean by "had his pretrial." Maybe you are referring to a hearing on a pretrial motion.

  At any rate, if the matter is in state court, Google "(county name) Superior Court." Look on the court's website for "case summary," or similar. You will need to enter the case number in the appropriate field. (If you don't know the case number, you can enter the parties' names.) Once you have located the list of documents on file in the case, there should be information as to how you may download them. There is usually a nominal fee for this.

  If the matter is in federal court, use this link and establish an account. Again there will be a nominal fee for each document downloaded: http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/

  If you mean a trial transcript, use the appropriate procedure above to contact the applicable court to order the transcript. Again, you will need the case number, or a the very least the parties' names.

  If you have trouble with this you can PM me and I will see if I can help further.

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  Hello..this is my story..

  by Lozhasleft in

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  i'm pleased to have found this site...i've browsed a little ...read quite a lot and gasped at some stories, giggled at the one liners and nodded in recognition of others' strong opinions and can relate to a great deal.. i'll try and keep my intro as brief as possible for anyone kind enough to listen.. i got involved with the witnesses in the late 70's in the uk.

  i was in my early 20s and had had a love and fascination for the bible since my difficult childhood.

  i soon brought my life into 'line' although it took a long time for me to pack up the smoking which didnt go down well in those days when 6 months of study should have been enough and if you hadnt cracked it then it was suggested that you were some kind of loser.... i reared my 4 children in the 'truth' as well as i could but i cant claim that we were a 'strong' family in their terms...just muddled along really..my husband at the time was a very difficult and abusive man and home life wasnt easy for any of us with his anger, jealousy and violence.

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  Inspiring story. I admire you for what you have survived and prevailed over. May the positive turn you have made in your life get better and better with time. Welcome to the board. I know you will find alot of support, sympathy and empathy here .

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