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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
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  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  Sigh.... I only asked a question!

  And, I still have no PM... ah well, never mind. Some of us can sleep at night.
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  You must be joking - from the UK? I want it 'real-time' not with network latencies - I wouldn't be able to handle the procrastinations in the order of 750mS !!!

  Tell me NOW!
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  Carry on, rick. Drag your cross. ;) Just PM hotspur why don't you? Yeah, knew you wouldn't

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  Nope - nothing yet :8
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  What I know is that this forum has a really good BS detector. In the past, there have been people that show up telling outlandish stories and lying for the sake of attention. They have been identified, debunked and usually removed or forced out depending on the severity of the lies.

  Rick has been identified as a shameless self promoter, forming his own cult with his "home church" and looking to recruit more people from this forum with carnival like theatrics. We need to stop giving him the advertising he craves.

  So, Paralipomemon... which way to you want it to go... ignore it and he stops? We ignore him and he doesn't get attention or ban him? Just asking!
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  I'm inclined not to give Rick an 'out'. He created this mess - he should fix it. Cedars himself and others offered solutions but nothing even remotely plausible has been forthcoming.

  If his excuse is, as Cedars has suggested, drawing out other "double agents" then showing stupid errors as quoted in my OP would scare any would be double agents further away - not draw them in! Their risk to exposure is huge based upon that clumsy and asanine quote.

  So, from my perspective, I still smell bovine waste!
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  So, this is how I understand it Rick... every mention of Johnny the Bethelite places you into further jeopardy with this forum? And yet, let me see if I can remember, who "threw" Johnny into this melting pot in the first place?

  Come on... you can't have it both ways! Surely it's a case of put-up or shut-up? I was sucked into one cult (ok, I was an obedient 12 year old at the time but I grew into it) and therefore I read the orignal stuff on Johnny with an open but enquiring mind. All I did was read yet more information about Johnny and was left with questions. These questions I have now voiced publicly with a desire to have answers.

  You have the temerity to tell me (and everyone else) to drop it... sorry, I haven't come down with the last shower. Tell us the truth for once!
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  I can't believe it either and if it were to be true how come he is still there? Too much evidence for him not to be trapped in my opinion. If there is a hidden agenda I dread to think what it is.

  That said, I understand people take pleasure and inspiration from all of this - so who am I to judge?

  I think that sums it all up pretty succinctly... judging can be fun though can't it? I mean, thousands of elders can't be wrong!
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  How come "Johhny the Bethelite" has not been exposed?

  by hotspur in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't believe johnny the bethelite has not been uncovered.

  unless, of course, he doesn't exist!

  hoping not to give koolaidman any more exposure here but.... .

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  hotspur

  I can't believe Johnny the Bethelite has not been uncovered. Unless, of course, he doesn't exist! Hoping not to give Koolaidman any more exposure here but...
  
  Let's see if I've got this right... Johnny is undercover in Bethel and keeping his identity secret to the extent he is using a 'voice-bender' to disguise his voice and lots of other, clever under-cover techinques?
  
  Please explain how any detective over the age of ten couldn't work out the identity of Johnny through the details described in the first paragraph of "Johnny the Bethelite's February 12 2011 interview"on the http://www.christianwitnesses.com/id347.html website?
  
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  "When Johnny the Bethelite returned to the Six Screens phone conference on January 12, he said that this time he was in a closet located inside his own room at Bethel. He was lying there with two herniated spinal discs giving him pain. His dad is a doctor who did an MRI of him after he recently fell. He himself wants to leave Bethel to go to medical school and was going to but cannot right now because of the fall which the MRI shows ruptured two of his spinal discs now causing him much pain. He believes the vacuum cleaning machine which was left on stairs and caused him to fall was left there. To help induce him to stay Watchtower has brought in or is bringing in his fleshly brother and sister. He has been assigned to another room with a better view, and they still seem to be maneuvering to try to get him into a compromising sexual encounter so as to discredit him when he walks off."

  (For those detectives under the age of ten I've highllighted the salient clues/evidence)

  I hope I haven't exposed Johnny. Clumsy me...
  I smell bovine waste!

  [I raised this in another thread but I think it got buried in people's views of Koolaidman - thought it deserved a thread of it's own]
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  Is this possible...... Hundreds of Bethelites now engaged in major reform?

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know the watchtower organization is now in a defensive mode.

  unrelenting criticism and critical information is rapidly coming forward exposing this esoteric cult.. are their hundreds of bethelites now understanding how evil their "faithfull slave" really is?

  has the revolution begun?.

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  hotspur

  I forgot to add --- I've highlighted the salient detective points for those detectives under the age of ten!

  Oh dear... does this mean I've possibly 'outed' Johhny?