Buttlight: No, not really. This is why it is "black-op". It is not approved/known of by the leading GB member as far as I'm informed. But, hey, maybe this changed now and therefore the uproar...
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by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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Hi folks!
I got some PMs of people who were either interested in my source or doubted the info. Both are welcome…
As you have certainly recognized, I didn't start this thread and I didn’t spread the word. But when I saw that some rumors seem to come up I thought that this fragile, semi-secret construct might be collapsing. So I thought it my be time to come up with some background information…
As I openly said in my post, I don’t know if this, - let’s call it “special research group” -, is the source of those rumors. But I can imagine it and I know that this group exist.
No, I’m not part of this group myself and I can’t for certain reasons give more details here but I know names and dates. Having said this, I again want to clarify that I’m not an insider who is being kept up to date with those developments in Brooklyn on a weekly basis.
Nonetheless, I know that since some of the initial power for this “black op team” came from now deceased GB members, a weird exceptional status was granted to those open-minded but heavily invested brothers…
They enjoy what I would call “special privileges” as regards research material, doctrinal believes and covenants and the last I know is that their existence is not known by all current GB members…
But as mentioned before, they stay in the shadow and obey the rules and regulations of the org, mostly out of “necessity”.
You have to understand the JW mindset here. If you served God 30, 40, 50 years in an org that you believe to be God’s chosen channel in “the last days” and you have no social network or security, you can’t give it all up because you find something intriguing. And you can’t give it up because you see human things go wrong (pedophilia, UN etc.) or because “the light gets brighter” (blood, generation, 1914). You are too much invested, emotionally, psychologically and materially. You need a major sign that tells you that this organization is not (or no longer) God's chosen agent. Only this would set enough force free for an outright rebellion...
There is a kind of "civil war" going on at the top but not open yet. It's more a war of manipulation currently than of works. Ted is ruling with an iron fist but there are two other powers in the GB. One power is moderate trying to modernize and think ahead for a "no-show scenario" and then there is the power of this group.
The trigger event I was thinking about must be an external event of global relevance which makes this black-op team come out in an open revolt to split up the Tower. "This generation keeps looking for a sign".
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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attorn
Hi!
I got some PMs as regards my post. Here are some questions members asked me:
>Do you think the apostates hiding within should organize and rally in some way?
I know that the "apostates" within are organized in a way. A sub-org in the Org under the ultimate authority of part of the official ORG
>Do you think the borg might implode from within?
I don't know which happens first, but yeah, I know there is a "civil war" going on and a lot of things point towards them being cut in two...
>Do you think we need some movers and shakers with a plan for vocal revolt and ACTION?
The last thing I know is that those "apostates" are a "black op" team, maybe it came to light now and was uncovered... Movers and shakers you wont find in this group, it needs an external "trigger event" for them to break loose. Mind you, there will be one...
>It seems the time for words is over. People have written letters, tried their best to talk to families and expose the truth, all to no avail. What is the next move?
Wait for this trigger event and then fire at them to make those walls collapse.
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News from Mother ship
by jefferywhat in1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
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attorn
Hi!
I took this new nick for privacy reasons but I can confirm that there is a whole group of medium to high ranking JWs in NY (Brooklyn & Pat) that could be considered "apostate" since they hold certain "unaccepted" & "inofficial" believes.
These believes and chronological understandings were delivered to the GB/WD (again) in 2001 on their request through an envoy. The material was "classified" and filed away but out of the initial cirlce of brothers who got to read it a kind of "secret" group formed.
Those guys got some kind of consent from GB members (some of whom have already died now) to further study and research the material as long as they would stay faithful to the org. It is possible that this fragile construct recently collapsed....
Attorn