Where's the sword that the NWT claims is coming out of his mouth?
The dirty dogs don't even know their own scrapture.
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Posts by Focus
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7Dear GB: Please give me my panda's back, pretty please...
by suavojr innew book about the kingdom and jw's history.
they are pushing this overlapping generation and with this graph we can see how they have a short time before they are forced to adjust this "new light".
the 3 musketeers.
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What was your out of control, sobbing moment with this stupid religion?
by ctrwtf ini have often laughed at public outpourings of emotion.
just google mike schmidt"s retirement speech in which he loses it and blithers on about his career.
completely douche chilling.. but to be honest, i had a moment recently when i literally balled my eyes out.
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Being shunned by my brothers and sister. But especially my brother Ryan who is like my twin. It's been years, I get on with things but still have my bad days on occasion. The pain never goes away you just learn how to live with it.
earthfire, I feel for you. I don't know where in the world you are, but has it occurred to you they are doing this because they have been brainwashed by an evil religion into doing so, and that the "church" of this religion may be legally liable - perhaps to the tune of millions of dollars - for the enormous pain their wicked BS have caused you?
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The Focus / Prominent Bethelite Topic
by Focus inhello, i am focus.. yes, that focus.. is there anyone here who remembers me from the "good" old days?.
my sig may provide a jog to the memory.. my vision is undimmed, my views unchanged and my claws are sharper than ever.
the filthy old whore is to be taken down with maximum prejudice.. focus.
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Be[s]ides this forum, what are some of the more persuasive websites that you believe further your cause?
Properly read, that place provides the most complete evidence that I am correct.
The site denies its own history, own origins and own past ethics/morality.
It is thus self-evidently a bastard, a prostitute and a liar, and exists in fulfillment of Biblical prophecy (see esp. Revelation)
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New List of Watchtower Classes (simplified for the simple-minded)
by Focus in1 less-senile men who 'specially advises' the president of the wtbts.
2 the president of the watchtower society of jehovah's witnesses.
3 jehovah god [as wtbts president interprets/'explains' all... ].
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lol. Usually, me too.
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"Signs of the Times" Magazine published since 1874 - better than Watchtower and Awake!
by yadda yadda 2 inhave you ever seen the 'signs of the times' magazine published by the seventh day adventists?
i saw one at my local take-out recently for the first time and had a quick flick through.
i thought it was rather better the awake and/or watchtower!
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To see from where Russell stole the idea of "parousia" (invisible coming) is a revelation in itself.
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The Focus / Prominent Bethelite Topic
by Focus inhello, i am focus.. yes, that focus.. is there anyone here who remembers me from the "good" old days?.
my sig may provide a jog to the memory.. my vision is undimmed, my views unchanged and my claws are sharper than ever.
the filthy old whore is to be taken down with maximum prejudice.. focus.
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I have started a thread challenging the two leading jW defenders/apologists of their time, "Dr" Furuli and Greg Stafford, to a debate on Watchtower Insanity. The specific topic debated can be their choice, and they can have helpers.
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New List of Watchtower Classes (simplified for the simple-minded)
by Focus in1 less-senile men who 'specially advises' the president of the wtbts.
2 the president of the watchtower society of jehovah's witnesses.
3 jehovah god [as wtbts president interprets/'explains' all... ].
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Thank you, stuckinarut2.
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Open challenge to "Dr" Rolf Furuli and Greg Stafford - DEBATE.
by Focus into me af's.
see below for more on af.
"prominent" (lol!
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Open challenge to "Dr" Rolf Furuli and Greg Stafford - ONLINE DEBATE on Watchtower Insanity.
Furuli seems to have gone to ground entirely, pushing only IKEA and his presumed misconstructions of cuneiform text.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/218342/1/What-happened-to-Rolf-Furuli
Stafford, OTOH, has apparently moved entirely away from the Watchtower, perhaps even disassociating himself in so doing.
If so, he owes me a personal apology and thanks to me for helping him get out by gently showing him the errors of his ways. He had lost his debate with AlanF and then I demonstrated that, leaving aside the Koine, Greg apparently didn't even know the difference between a phrase and a clause in his own mothertongue, English. Needless to say, the dubdub didn't accept his error, and further remonstration ensued before he scarpered.
And then the TravisJ45 incident. I'll let the Prominent Bethelite relate, in his own inimitable style, what transpired:
Post from the H2O archives:
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Subject: "Stafford Wins..Now what?"
Posted by TravisJ45 [GregStafford] on November 03, 1999 at 07:53:07
{eZOTANvCI6/CPYT8orz2XxZ4XktaQ.}:
I spent all day yesterday and most of the night reading through Greg
Stafford's responses to AF. I am currently a member of a JW congregation
but over the years I have had doubts about some things. I still do. But as
far as this debate between Greg and AF goes Greg wins. To me AF's
arguments are not that strong and he comes across a bit arrogant. I am not
sure if I am more impressed with Greg's patience or his ability to argue.
I honestly cannot see the point in continuing this debate. I recommend AF
step out of the debate circle and let someone like COJ debate Greg about
something like the gentile times chronology. Or maybe we can hear more
about the blood issue. I for one do not plan on reading through nearly 100
pages of this debate again!
TJ45
-----------------------------------------------------------------This was received at 7:53:07 a.m. (H2O time).
Then when the message appeared on his screen, this idiotic Jehovah's
Witness must have realized that the game was up as his real handle
(GregStafford) had shown up (on the post, and on the index of posts) in
square brackets next to the assumed extra handle (TravisJ45) - H2O allows
dupe-handles, but reveals the main one (especially to prevent this sort of
abuse).
Realizing that there was no time to contact a Moderator (H2O is run by
fellow JWs) and get it all deleted before the message got seen by
"apostates" AS THIS WAS A PEAK TIME OF THE DAY (indeed, the message got
its first reply at 8:02:52 a.m. - less than 10 minutes later) - together
with the giveaway ("[GregStafford]"), the shameless CHEATER then posted a
second post about 10 minutes after the first one - to whit:-
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Subject: Take a hint, please...
Posted by TravisJ45 [GregStafford] on November 03, 1999 at 08:03:18
{eZOTANvCI6/CPYT8orz2XxZ4XktaQ.}:
Events have happened that jeopardize his presence here, but that can be
overcome, as you now see. See below for more on AF.
Greg would rather move on to something else, but there is a new procedure
he must follow. Any questions, please email me. I have the details.
TJ45 (?)
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Firstly, this #2 post explains nothing - and IN NO WAY lets Greg Stafford
(Cheater) off the hook.
On this second post (not the predecessor) an email address appeared -
[email protected] - significantly, not the email he uses for posts
which he intended to show originating from himself (viz:
[email protected])
An obvious shoddy cover-up of a botched attempt at CHEATING.
Why else would it have been in TWO posts? At 8:03:18 a.m. (or slightly
earlier, as the time is H2O time), the posting-receipt time for this
second post he would *NOT* have had time to SEE, READ and RESPOND to the
first reply to his first post (H2O receipt time 08:02:52 a.m., sender:
"Friend"). So any claim the second Stafford post was to explain the
"misunderstanding" over the first one FAILS MISERABLY - for this to
happen, the TOTAL of ALL the times for:-
(a) H2O to place "Friend"'s post on the BB after receiving it;
(b) Stafford to refresh his H2O screen and notice the response, allowing
for Internet timing delays;
(c) Stafford to read the response (which spotted the botched forgery);
(d) Stafford to consider what and how to respond;
(d) Stafford to type out a 4 or 5 line response 9as above - not a short
one);
(e) Stafford to send this response to H2O; and
(f) Stafford's response to travel across the net and be received by H2O.
must be no more than 27 seconds (YES - IN TOTAL!!!!!!) - the difference
between 8:02:52 and 8:03:18, plus a second in Stafford's favour for the
maximal rounding difference..
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! MMM-LOL! LOL!
WOW! We knew the Light flickered for these crazy JWs - a change in policy
every now and again - but this is ridiculous!
Well, so Stafford's second post was CLEARLY NOT IN RESPONSE to the first
response to his first post.
So, was it "second thoughts" - in just 10 minutes?
Sure it was - triggered by the appearance of the unexpected
"[GregStafford]".
Stands to reason it is nothing else.
That this cheat has written a couple of ~30,000 character (!!!)
explanations for "what really happened" speaks for itself. The truth, my
friends, is usually much shorter than "the truth" ;-)
He tried to cheat, and got caught.
Well, Greg Stafford, in my eyes and that of all right-thinking people, you
a MISERABLE CHEAT and a LOSER.
I will be contacting the News Services (using the non-angelic channels I
developed when I conributed to their coverage of mass- and child- murderer
Jwhovah's Witness Mark Barton) to ensure this fiasco by the JW's most
visible apologist and defender gets the news coverage it deserves -
SANCTIMONIOUS HUMBUG CAUGHT CHEATING!
Not to mention the Borg. I look forward to greeting you as an ex-JW, soon.
And, as you know, Greggie - the message has been copied to you too. Please
do respond to the NGs. had you simply responded when caught with an "I'm
sorry" I would have let you be. Your credibility is sub-zero, and falling
like... mercury ;-)
Remember, folks - the Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses is a SHAM
and a FRAUD from start to finish. They have been caught CHEATING and LYING
and WRITING NONSENSE any number of times - explore the links in my sig for
just a few (hundred) examples. So, it is hardly surprising when their most
"Prominent" (LOL!) Current Public Apologist also gets caught CHEATING.
Love
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Focus
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What happened to Rolf Furuli?
by Vidqun inrolf seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth.
he is not active on b-hebrew or other message boards anymore.
i wrote to him with a query, and has not heard a thing.
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Yes... IKEA.... another big corporation paying "Dr" Furuli for his services advertising their products...
Given IKEA's extremely unsavoury past:
http://huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/ikea-secrets-horse-meat_n_2411475.html
including Nazi links, isn't the parallel to the Watchtower Society (who also kowtowed to the Nazis) a little interesting.
Oh, of course "Dr" Furuli is an honorable man. A very honorable man.
And oh, so learned!
Having heard what happened to the other "learned" (lol) jW-apologist, Greg Stafford, when that Ancient Worthy argued with me, perhaps "Dr" Furuli wouldn't like to take up cudgels with me?
I had exposed that the duffer Stafford didn't even know the difference between a phrase and a clause in his native language of English - so what knowledge of the Koine was he likely to possess? All records preserved in my archives for regurgitation (in the best dog-vomit style that Greg, who slipped up while thumbs-upping his own postings, would well understand). He ran away thereafter.
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The Society is no longer printing hardcover books.
by kneehighmiah inletter read that the society will no longer be making hardcover books.
also the told people to not place orders for daily texts or calendars if they had the ability to download these.
who downloads a calendar?
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Is the retarded suit-clad kid above in his senses?
He looks as if he's masturbating (which can lead to homosexuality, as the WTS has repeatedly warned) but he hasn't quite grasped the issue of "how".
If You Know what I mean...
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