Interesting, Ben Franklin ever the pragmatist, didn't actually disagree with Paine, he just pointed to the results if people en masse rejected religion.
The point that Franklin misses, I think, is that when someone is taught to reject "vice" because of certain natural, negative consequences, there is a better likelihood of success among most people. If they are taught to reject vice because of the power of an "Almighty Punisher", they will be obedient so long as they believe in the "Almight Punisher." Once their believe breaks down, so does all resolve at avoiding vice.
I just finished reading "Age of Reason" last night. (took a few detours in reading other stuff along the way) A couple of thoughts:
- Writers, politicians, and philosophers were quite brilliant 200 years ago. Imagine if a national figure wrote like that today??!!!
- With such simple logic that defeats the whole premise of the bible, why is it that so many still cling to it??? It really is, as Paine describes, a book of violence, rape, and unimaginable brutality.
I would love to offer the work to more intellectual JW's as "astounding logical reasonings of one of the Founding Fathers" and see how long before the book gave them a "flat tire of faith"