If you want to scare the shit out of everyone, dress up as a Circuit Overseer!
Farkel
two years ago i was an angel, last year a cat.
i am working that day so i need to be "modest".
yes they let us dress up it's kind of fun.
If you want to scare the shit out of everyone, dress up as a Circuit Overseer!
Farkel
i just found out that a co-worker of mine is a ex-jw....she's being pressured to go back to the khall...she says everytime she goes to visit her family, they're telling her how jehovah still loves her...blah blah blah...thankfully she has her own apartment!.
i do see how her upbringing in the cult has affected her...she's soft and overly kind, but she's a real sweetheart...the down side: people take advantage of her.. should i tell her that i too am a jw and understands what she's going through with her family or should i just tell her that "spirituality is a personal thing and don't feel guilted into doing something you don't want" ect....the thing is, she talks alot and if i tell her that i'm suppose to be a jw, then the entire workplace will know.... what should i do?
my only aim is to have her not feel guilted in going back...she said her family has been trying to get her back in, but she's resisting it...the other issue, her son stays with her jw sister (she didn't disclose why)...and my co-worker tells me that her son is becoming a "jw convert".. please i need some advice!.
Kool Jo,
Here is is final thought from a master at enlightenment.
Mahatma Ghandi, the single man who was personally resposible for freeing one BILLION people from the repressive rule of Great Britain and who lived his own life in poverty and service, was approached by a lady who travelled hundreds of miles across their Country to see him and ask for his advice.
Of course, Ghandi would see just about anyone who approached him. Here is a man, like the Biblical Jesus who would create a marvelous revolution, who was as approachable as one's best friend. She said to him, "I need you to help me convince my son to stop eating so much sugar. Sugar is bad for him. Can you help him."
Ghandi, said "Yes, I think I can. But I want you to leave me and come back in two weeks before I can help him."
She was rather upset, because after her long trip, she had to find accommodations for two weeks, just to get Ghandis' advice. She was poor and such a condition was a major hardship for her.
So she found a way to survive and came back two weeks later, just as Ghandi asked. When she did, she asked him, "can you help me now?"
Ghandi said, "yes. I think I can." She then asked, "why did you make we wait two full weeks before you gave me your answer?"
Ghandi replied, "I had to wait two weeks to wean myself off of sugar before I could tell your son how to do it."
As the real masters say, and certainly Ghandi was one of them, "let your faith be not in your talking, but in your walking."
Sigh. If only the Watchtower leaders were 1/10th that wise!
So Kool Jo, you are not in a position to "fix up" anyone who is an ex- dub with doubts about that choice until you "fix up" yourself. You never even went as far on the gangplank as that person, and you think you can "help" that person? Trying to "fix up" others only detracts from your own challanges.
Ghandi transformed history and freed India. Personally.
Go look in the mirror and then transform yourself and then you will be prepared to transform people you love in the JW religion.
Otherwise, you are just a puttering dillatante who won't face your own issues and are trying to validate your lack of doing that by being a busy-body. And a hypocrite.
Farkel
i just found out that a co-worker of mine is a ex-jw....she's being pressured to go back to the khall...she says everytime she goes to visit her family, they're telling her how jehovah still loves her...blah blah blah...thankfully she has her own apartment!.
i do see how her upbringing in the cult has affected her...she's soft and overly kind, but she's a real sweetheart...the down side: people take advantage of her.. should i tell her that i too am a jw and understands what she's going through with her family or should i just tell her that "spirituality is a personal thing and don't feel guilted into doing something you don't want" ect....the thing is, she talks alot and if i tell her that i'm suppose to be a jw, then the entire workplace will know.... what should i do?
my only aim is to have her not feel guilted in going back...she said her family has been trying to get her back in, but she's resisting it...the other issue, her son stays with her jw sister (she didn't disclose why)...and my co-worker tells me that her son is becoming a "jw convert".. please i need some advice!.
Well. It is my humble opinion that folks who are still in a cult need to spend more time figuring out why they are still in a cult and less time trying to help people who are having doubts about leaving a cult. After all, THEY got out, even if they are having doubts. People who haven't got out should rather look to them for guidance and help than offering it to people who have at least taken that step to get out.
"My friend who quit being a heroin addict is thinking about getting back on heroin. Now, I'm a heroin addict, so how can I tell my friend that would not be a good thing to do, because I could never muster the strength to get off it, but I do know how bad it is." Pflooooot!
Next, is "guilted" an actual word, and when did "guilt" and "guilted" become verbs? I must have been on heroin when that happened.
I know this is a serious subject and maybe, just maybe, I'm making a little too much light of it, but here is the deal as I lived it:
I would never even MENTION that I was a dub for nearly 20 years after I left. I never had regrets for leaving and all the family pressure in the world couldn't get me to go back. I never had that problem with my dub friends. They would have nothing to do with me after I left. This is called "spiritual encouragement" in WatchTowerSpeak. I was not DFd, or did I DA. I just split while I was a MS, conducted a Congregational Book Study, gave Public Talks both in our Congregation and many others, and ran our 2nd Theocratic Ministry School. I was also a Pioneer. After being a pretty much "born in" and all that, I just smelled the stench of the shit that is all things Watchtower.
I guess what I am getting at is once one can really smell the stench of the shit that is all things Watchtower, and realize that is what it is, one doesn't need much help from anyone else if one really wants to breath fresh air again.
Farkel
my last two posts were not parsed with a cr/lf.
all the sentences ran together with no cr/lfs.
i'm still using chrome with xp-pro and until today, everything worked perfectly.
Simon,
Sorry it took me this long to respond.
You asked:
: Farkel: Are you seeing the rich-text editor (with formatting buttons etc...) or do you see just a plain text-area box?
Yes, I see the rich-text editor with all the formatting, fonts, colors and the other wonderful stuff the a RTB offers.
Farkel
i just wanted to introduce myself and share my verbose story.
my name is kyria, i'm 29 years old, originally from the pawtucket/lincoln rhode island congregation in the states.
i found this board yesterday, and am completely blown away by what an amazing place it is.
bttt.
Didn't I tell you foks that Kyria was a brilliant, witty and poignant writer? (I don't actually know what "poignant" means, but someone told me to toss it around because it will make the chicks cry and stuff like that.) This thread is ten years old, and she gave us the outline for her book right here! And it was "poignant", too. Whatever THAT means. I hope some of you chicks are weeping over that word, or I will have just toss it into my dust heap of words that won't help me get laid.
Consider me a fan, Kyria.
Farkel, Not Really Poignant CLASS (too much weeping. I don't weep.)
currently we need 50+ people to reserve a seat for the sd premier of "truth be told".
invite anyone you know and please inform them to go through the tugg site below to ensure the event will happen.. http://www.tugg.com/events/5192.
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So where are you Mr. Fredaroonie? You were spouting off your nonsense and having a good ol' time doing it and puffing yourself up and making yourself look so grand and wonderful. Now where are you?
Where is your apology to Mr. Nathan Natas? If you do not apologize for your ill-informed slam on him, that not only makes you a liar, but a coward.
If I ever see you on this board again I will dog you until a) you either prove your slams on him are FACT, or 2) you apologize to him personally, or 3) you leave this board.
Of course, I have no power over you and I cannot force you to do anything, so yes, you can just post anytime you want and ignore everything I just wrote.
However, in doing so, you will condemn yourself. This is only my little humble opinion. I wouldn't hurt a fly. I only go after people who mess with my friends. Flies have too much class to do that. They leave that job to me.
Farkel
Ishmael (Mad Giant):
You wrote:
: As a matter of fact, in collage...
As a self-proclaimed engineer, I find it amusing that you cannot even spell the type of school where you received your education.
Then you said,
: and must of us are atheists.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Farkel, Hoo Allso Wunt tu skool, an itty bit
:Not all believers in a creator are dumb, may be deaf, so accomplished atheist explain this:--
How does one get to be an "accomplished" atheist? Is there an apprentice phase, where they are not quite "accomplished" and then they learn their "trade" and become "accomplished?" If so, where do they learn that trade? Who teaches that trade?
Is that sort of like being an "accomplished" true-believer, with the attendant apprentice-in-training phase before becoming such?
Or are you being a jerk with a pejorative statement like that to create a viceral response when you have no real evidence?
Curious minds like mine need to know.
Farkel, "Accomplished" Jerk (Did my training in the Watchtower religion)
currently we need 50+ people to reserve a seat for the sd premier of "truth be told".
invite anyone you know and please inform them to go through the tugg site below to ensure the event will happen.. http://www.tugg.com/events/5192.
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I would like the board to re-read this incoherent and self-serving gibberish and then wonder why this clown could skewer an old and respected poster like Nathan Natas:
: So I see nathan natas is representing the Do Nothings and the whining detractors in the exjw community. While the watchtower barely needs to have a good concept tp make millions of people world wide promote the hell out of their crap-they cant fail - here in the xjws we I herited the biggest bunch of ddo nothings and armchair critics I have ever seen. It really does seem to me that some of you here, are here for the sole purpose of destroying everysingle effort to actually accomplish something for the exjw cause. I dont know about anybody else but I do take xjw activism very seriously. And in general I support and am positve, helpful, hopeful and ready to praise just about ANY effort any exjw puts forth on any front. I really do believe in being a brotherhood and being loyal to my brothers in this co.munity. frankly if everyone was like me we would have a powerful organization of ex members. I do walk the walk and I am proud to say it. Stooping to the level where since you havent seen the film yet you cant ritocize it so you (all the while not having a projet of your own) criticize how the project is run. But if it was run fantastically and masterfully it wouldnt matter cuz you would just find something else to nay say about. So my criticism and challenge tp nathan natas is the obvious: if youre so smart and talented and know so much about running a successful campaign why dont you offer your expertise on the subject. Offer to be the head marketing strategist. Or do a film of your own. But what I know of you so far is that what you are good at is whining. Not much ground for bragging onyour side buddy. Show Us what you got in your pants. Put your money where your mouth is.
Farkel
currently we need 50+ people to reserve a seat for the sd premier of "truth be told".
invite anyone you know and please inform them to go through the tugg site below to ensure the event will happen.. http://www.tugg.com/events/5192.
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frankie,
You wrote:
: BTT for San Diego, I used to live in Mira Mesa for about 18 months.
I bought my first home in Mira Mesa around 1975. It was a 3 br 1 ba. single garage home on Reagon Road about a mile or two north of Miramar Road. It was like living in the middle of nowhere. I hated it. I sold it three months later and moved closer to the pulse of San Diego, just south in University City, which at the time was known as "Baja LaJolla.
These days I hear that Mira Mesa is a huge Phillapino community. I never liked Mira Mesa. It's like living in Barstow when one loves Los Vegas, or living in Logan Heights when one loves Pacific Beach.
If you get my drift...
Farkel