Posts by flipper

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last psychology session tomorrow

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

so tomorrow is my last appointment with my psychologist.

we are going to commemorate it by giving each other a letter.. sept 2016 i sat, a quivering wreck, in her waiting room.

i was terrified.

flipper

Phoebe- Just wanted to send you these from me and my wife today -

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last psychology session tomorrow

by Phoebe in

jw
friends

so tomorrow is my last appointment with my psychologist.

we are going to commemorate it by giving each other a letter.. sept 2016 i sat, a quivering wreck, in her waiting room.

i was terrified.

PHOEBE- Thanks so much for sharing your story with us. You are truly an inspiration in what you've had to overcome. I'm so sorry that you suffered in the JW organization and that your brother abused you. Please know and realize that you are among friends here- many of us who were born-in JW's suffered in silence for years in our various circumstances until finally gaining our freedom of mind. I'm happy for you that you finally attained your freedom ! Good for you. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Freudian slip in last Sunday's WT?

by The Fall Guy in

i had this point highlighted to me yesterday by a dyed-in-the-wool j.w.

who is beginning to see cracks in his beloved golden calf of warwick.

so encouraging to hear his disgruntlement with org-related topics.. “many in the christian congregation may not have expected their loved ones to die this side of armageddon.” (july 2017 study wt).

flipper

Then again- there's another way of looking at this as a possibility. The very fact that this particular WT writer even PUT that statement , " many Witnesses thought their family members wouldn't die this side of Armageddon " into a WT article - may indicate that someone in the writing committee is on purpose trying to cause doubt to occur within JW's minds who read this. My wife and I have been discussing this possibility for a long time now- that there are probably one or two Bethelites who are awake about TTATT and might be dropping off hints here and there in a subtle- or not so subtle way so as to wake JW's up or at least get them to have doubts. Possibly working from the inside to alert unsuspecting JW's. It seems to have worked on this JW person who you mention in the opening thread. Smart way to wake JW's up in my opinion

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Those who DO NOT get a resurrection?

by stuckinarut2 in

so we know that by jw logic, the idea is that everyone who dies is acquitted of their sin and will get a resurrection in the "new world".

however, those directly destroyed by god, or at his command will not.

(for example, those destroyed in the flood.

flipper

" Those who DO NOT get a resurrection ? "

Then they probably won't get a resurrection. But then again - nobody does- resurrections most probably don't exist. The resurrection " theory " is embedded into religions because most religious people cannot cope with, handle or face their own mortality. Death is a bitch and a reality - just look at every listing of humans that have lived on Ancestry.com - they all have a date of death- not a resurrection. The resurrection is a " plastic life preserver " that deflates once somebody dies- never to be seen again.

The " resurrection " teaching in my opinion is every much a fantasy as " Armageddon " , " everlasting life " , " 144,000 ", " last days of the system of things " , and on and on and on. I much prefer living in the here and now because folks- the here and now may be the only show in town that we get to play a part in ! LOL

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How much do you think the internet has hurt JW growth?

by HereIgo in

the internet is what helped bring me and so many others out of this evil organization or at least confirmed our doubts.

i have to say, i have seen quite a few youtube videos recently of ex jw's secretly recording their interactions inside of different congregations, halls, etc and see how empty the halls are!

so many people comment on how the attendance is so low, far more emptier than when i was in 6 years ago, even on a weekday meeting.

flipper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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flipper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lICaxxyWMi4