Posts by flipper

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New Here ... Just woke up

by Sevan in

jw
friends

hey all, .

this is my first post.

i haven't been out in service or to a meeting in over a month.. i realize now that i've been having serious questions for years and many articles and talks have greatly disturbed me over the years.

SEVAN- Welcome to the board and welcome to freedom of mind and expression ! Now your life is just really getting started- it's a new beginning - not an end. I was born-in and raised a JW like your husband but finally exited at age 44 back in 2003. Some of my nieces and nephews and my son are out- but my older siblings and older parents are still very much JW's. Except my older mom- she accepts my decisions to leave and we are close.

You certainly have a challenge ahead of you. You have the right plan and idea in just showing your stepchildren that you love them in spite of exiting the Witnesses and doing the same in your relationship with your husband. If I may make a suggestion to you : The books " Crisis of conscience " & " In Search for Christian Freedom "are great books by Ray Franz- they really confirmed what I was suspecting in the WT organization. However the books that assisted me the most we're 3 books by Steve Hassan a cult exit counselor and psychologist titled : " Combatting Cult Mind Control " , " Releasing the Bonds - Empowering People to Think for Themselves " & " Freedom of Mind - Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults, and Beliefs ".

These books really helped me to understand the techniques and HOW the WT Society and other high control organizations like Scientology, Mormon's, JW's and other religions are able to control our minds through needless guilt and needless fear. Once a person understands that it's the leaders of these organizations that are manipulative , controlling, and coercive - we stop blaming ourselves for having been duped by them. It's NOT our fault. It's the fault of dishonest WT leaders who are using people's lives up trying to intentionally divide families in order to control them to keep attending and contributing to the WT illusions. And they do this through guilt and fear tactics. Steve Hassan's website is : www.freedomofmind.com. I really encourage you to read these books if you get a chance. It truly helped me personally to see HOW I was deceived like thousands of others through dishonest tactics. And these books have plenty of advice on how to talk to our still in JW relatives and friends also . Very good ideas in there.

So welcome my friend. We are here as a support to you and offer our deepest unconditional friendship. Many of us have been and are where you are at in exiting and some of us are being shunned for our decisions. But we are happier. remember you are not alone, we are here for you. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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here i am

by notalone in

i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.

my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.

i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.

flipper

NOTALONE- Welcome to the board and I'm so sorry to hear the pain and sorrow that you and your daughter and family had to suffer and experience. It's very sad and disgusting that the WT Society trains elders to be uncompassionate robots.

Please be assured of our best wishes and we offer our unconditional open friendship to you as a support to you. I hope in time your daughter can heal and your family can find peace. Remember, we're here for you. Take care, Sincerely, Mr. Flipper

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Hello Everyone

by Mozzie in

jw
friends

hoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.

hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.

i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.

flipper

MOZZIE- Welcome to the board. Nice to have you here. First off, Jehovah doesn't hate you. You are being conditioned and mind controlled by the WT Society to hate yourself. WT Society does a number on people's brains by intimidating them through needless guilt and fear. You aren't going to be destroyed at an imaginary or real " Armageddon " because it does not exist.

Ask yourself this very real question, " If you've lasted 20 years in your current relationship and it's gone well and smoothly with children, etc. - would a loving " God " insist that you have to get married or else you'd lose your family ? " Come on man. the WT Society is one of the biggest scams going right now out there among MANY religions that are just scams being used to control people's minds and lives. As you yourself stated- your bigger responsibility is to your partner and children and giving them a secure life. Oh- And one more thing WT Society likes to do- they enjoy breaking up families just so you'll stay trapped and controlled in their false belief systems.

Don't let them break up your family and realize that you don't owe the WT Society ANYTHING- NOTHING. They won't do anything for you but cause more heartache to you and your loved ones. RUN LIKE HELL my friend, stay away from Jehovah's Witnesses and save your sanity and peace of mind. It's a criminal organization run by criminals. take care, we are here as a support system to you. There is no need for you to keep beating yourself up through your life. You are a good person no matter what they say. Live your life for YOU and your FAMILY - not the judgmental WT Society.

Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

flipper

" What is the Alternative to being JW ? "

NOT being a JW

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Contempt of court, case in San Diego county really disgusts me!

by Crazyguy in

this case has to be talked about by ever awake jw every apostate everyone.

this case because they refuse to hand over documents the court already knows they have because they handed them over before but heavily redacted, is the icing on the cake!

this case shows thier evil plain and simple.

flipper

Oh and yes- I have been shouting from the rooftops here in my geographical area about the San Diego WT court orders. People are listening- including younger JW's I talk with. And leaving these printouts at grocery store bulletin boards in a couple different towns s working at spreading the message as well

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Contempt of court, case in San Diego county really disgusts me!

by Crazyguy in

this case has to be talked about by ever awake jw every apostate everyone.

this case because they refuse to hand over documents the court already knows they have because they handed them over before but heavily redacted, is the icing on the cake!

this case shows thier evil plain and simple.

flipper

CRAZYGUY- I'm with you. I think it's utterly disgusting , horrific, and criminal that leaders of a so-called " religious organization " who CLAIM to be " Christian " cannot and WILL not do the right, principled thing and cooperate with " Caesar's courts " who WT leaders say they allegedly obey and respect. That's a lie. WT leaders are leading a criminal organization run by criminals who don't want to obey or cooperate with the laws of the land. WT leaders deserve any and all punishment coming to them - financial OR prison

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Governing Body Anthony Morris gives talk at convention. Child refuses blood dies

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yxw_wxyviu .

flipper

I agree with Sparrowdown - Anthony Morris is either a psychopath or a sociopath- probably both.

A couple years ago Morris bragged in a talk about how HE would be better prepared to handle people dying at " Armageddon's battlefield " than most JW's due to his military service in Vietnam before becoming a JW. So the guy was NUMB to death even before he became a JW - so you can imagine how little he values the sanctity of life NOW after being indoctrinated for years as a JW.

Yeah, let's see him pull the plug on his own children or grandchildren and not give THEM blood transfusions if needed ! This man's nothing but a criminal who happens to be a cult leader with 8 other mind controlled unethical , inhumane freaks

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