Posts by flipper

26

My mom died at 96 (without a visit from her granddaughter)

by BONEZZ in

jw
friends

don't get here much anymore.

my mom, if you remember, really wanted to see her granddaughter before she died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcpuj96a8lg.

flipper

BONEZZ- My wife and I send our deepest condolences to you on the loss of your dear mom. I DO remember you posting this you tube several years ago. I'm so sorry that your daughter never woke up enough to visit your mom. I remember when we met years ago at Tahoe.

Like yourself I have a fanatic 29 year old daughter who won't let me see my first ever grandson. And I highly doubt that she will ever take my grandson to see my 89 year old mom who has been inactive away from the JW's for 2 years now living in an assisted living facility. My daughter's too busy " pioneering " ruining people's lives.

The WT Society IS a criminal organization that breaks up and destroys families all the time. You've seen it with your family , I've seen it with my family. As have thousands of people across the planet. It's disgusting, barbaric, unethical, and criminal as I mentioned. I hope your friend is successful about exposing the JW shunning policy on network T. V. I mean- the networks have lambasted the Scientologists ( and rightly so ) for their horrific shunning practices - it's about time, WAY past due for the Jehovah's Witnesses to get that same exposure about their shunning practices. I tell everybody I come across about it virtually.

Again, our deepest sympathies to you for your loss my friend. Sincerely, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper

14

ToMo has a New Soulmate - Toronto woman wakes up to raccoon sex

by berrygerry in

“i found it gross and disgusting.".

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/04/09/toronto-woman-wakes-up-to-raccoon-sex.

- if you see this balcony rockin’, don’t come knockin’.it was too early thursday morning for ava kwinter to unsee what she describes as a “traumatic” start to her day.as she passed by her door leading to the second-floor balcony just before 7 a.m., she saw two shadowy figures locked in an embrace.“the sun was already coming up but it was still dark,” she said.

flipper

I think these critters are kind of cute actually doing what normal animals and normal humans do- just f-----g their brains out. Nothing wrong with that ! I mean- come on Ms. Ava Kwinter how would YOU like it if you were in the clutches of a nice orgasm with your husband or boyfriend and people were snapping pictures of you two " doing it " ? You think you'd start " growling and baring your teeth " if you were interrupted ? I bet you would. And I bet you are envious that Mr. Raccoon lasted 20 minutes - right ? Bet your hubby or boyfriend can't do that ! LOL.

I mean have you ever seen roosters & chickens do it ? O.K. I won't go there. But good lord, people having sex with each other and animals having sex with each other has happened for centuries without it making news ! I wonder if this woman " found it gross and disgusting " that her parents had to do the horizontal bop in order for HER to come into the world ? Or if she thinks it happened by osmosis ? The prudishness of some people never ceases to amaze me. Leave the lovemaking raccoons alone already ! Respect their privacy ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

4

Why calling Daesh/ ISIS a Mind Control Cult is of Strategic and Practical Importance -Steve Hassan 04/8/2016by Steven Hassan M.Ed, LMHC, NCC – 04/8/2016

by Watchtower-Free in

by steven hassan m.ed, lmhc, ncc – 04/8/2016.

http://freedomofmind.com/blog/2016/04/10/why-calling-daesh-isis-a-mind-control-cult-is-of-strategic-and-practical-importance-by-steven-hassan-m-ed-lmhc-ncc-0482016/.

this morning, the new york times published an article entitled “radicalization of a belgium student turned bomb maker was invisible.” this piece, written by alissa j. rubin, details the conversion of 24-year-old najim laachraoui, one of the suicide bombers responsible for the attack of the belgium airport on march 22. rubin cites associates and family members of laachraoui, who all say that while he leaned toward a strict version of islam, and they did notice changes in his ideology and behavior, they never suspected he would be capable of such violent acts.

flipper

WATCHTOWER FREE- Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. I've always felt that the same tactics used to recruit new JW members are similar tactics used to recruit terrorist members into groups as well. The similarities are shocking. Steve Hassan is definitely correct- these groups the Muslim extremist groups or whether they are non-violent cult groups like Scientology or Jehovah's Witnesses do the same things psychologically to people in a similar fashion - using behavior control, information control, thought control, and emotional control. And then like what happened to the young Belgium terrorist- he was " invited to join a brotherhood of fellow Muslims , he likely thought he had found acceptance. " And that is EXACTLY what Jehovah's Witnesses do- love bombing newer members making them feel that they are a " people for special possession " or " Jehovah's chosen people " - in which it empowers the illusion to rank & file JW's in their minds that they are MORE special than any other people on the planet.

It's an extremely dangerous coercion and manipulation of humans - even MORE dangerous when deadly terrorist groups use these methods to recruit. Most people in the ordinary public are totally oblivious to the dangers of mind control - whether it's used to recruit Muslims, JW's, Scientologists, or even " Christian " religions. People are extremely naïve in general - one reason so many people get fooled and taken in by all these groups. Thanks for this informative thread ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

8

Length of a Generation? Ask a governing agency or member of governing board

by kepler in

in the saturday/sunday wall street journal for the weekend of april 9-10, 2016, in the us news section there was an article titled, "housing bust lingers for generation x.".

something clicked in my mind when i read.

"the data show an enormous swing in the fortunes of people born between 1965 and 1984, the group defined by the harvard joint center for housing studies as 'generation x'".. hmmm....generation did you say?

flipper

Exactly, yeah. I've been harping about this point ever since the ridiculously stupid WT "overlapping generation " theory. Look in any or most dictionaries and they will describe the definition of a " generation " as a period of about 25 to 30 years or the time from when we are born until we have our own children - the next generation - usually occurring between ages 20 to 30 years old. WT Society leaders are just so idiotic it's ridiculous. They'd claim their shit was pink if it meant more $$$ and more JW's coming into the organization for them to control

29

The Effects Of Instant Information At Your Finger Tips How Will The Watchtower Ever Survive Very Long?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

it is hard to teach that the earth is flat these day do to a more informed society, and now that we have entered the information age i see a whole new ball game is before a rather ignorant bunch of old farts called the governing body.

these guys are totally ignorant by choice and are trying desperately to keep their captive's ignorant for as long as possible.

the gb's internet apperances are all laughable to any sane individual and a total embarasement.

flipper

DESIROUS- I agree that living a happy, successful life is a great revenge indeed towards illuminating JW's to TTATT. However I feel that non-JW's we come across in daily life need to know about the dangers of the WT Society. I try to expose it so people will be aware. I can STILL do that- and have a happy life in other areas while I'm exposing the WT Society. It's not black & white. Either this or that.

I don't expose the WT to my JW relatives though as I'm careful not to trigger any of their JW defenses they might put up as a wall. But in my opinion non-JW's or " worldly " people DO need to be informed as to the dangers within the WT criminal organization. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

29

The Effects Of Instant Information At Your Finger Tips How Will The Watchtower Ever Survive Very Long?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

it is hard to teach that the earth is flat these day do to a more informed society, and now that we have entered the information age i see a whole new ball game is before a rather ignorant bunch of old farts called the governing body.

these guys are totally ignorant by choice and are trying desperately to keep their captive's ignorant for as long as possible.

the gb's internet apperances are all laughable to any sane individual and a total embarasement.

flipper

I agree with Village Idiot and Magnum very much so on this subject. JW's are taught NOT to have curiosity about things outside the JW experience. They are NOT taught about REAL integrity- only " integrity " that follows or protects the WT organization. JW's are TAUGHT NOT to have ethics and are Taught NOT to question anything they are taught from the WT Society. If anything- they are trained , and indeed demanded of to BELIEVE everything coming out of the mouths of the GB, WT publications, and anything on their websites or at their meetings.

With the mind control and brain manipulation tactics flooding through the average JW's brain neurotransmitters in their nerve endings - unless something interrupts the false flow of WT information pouring into their minds - that information becomes their " world view " if they don't check the Internet or get access to other information that might free them ! As some of you mention - like Desirous of Change mentioned- something needs to rock their boat in order to awaken to TTATT . Either they have to suffer injustices personally from WT authority figures or see loved ones get the shaft from other JW's. Sometimes even THAT doesn't work due to the mind control.

It's like we are dealing with pre-programmed robots here people - almost like a scene out of the old Yul Brynner movie " Westworld " where these pre-programmed robots went crazy destroying everything . Until there is a disconnect within a typical JW - the destruction of families continues . The power of mind control cannot be underestimated. One reason I feel we Ex-JW's need to keep speaking out about this criminal organization the WT Society

36

Article from Jamaica: Jehovah's Witnesses' properties for sale - Rising costs force religious group to go small

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20160410/jehovahs-witnesses-properties-sale-rising-costs-force-religious-group-go-small jehovah's witnesses' properties for sale - rising costs force religious group to go small.

sunday | april 10, 2016 | 12:00 am by erica virtue.

norman grindley.

flipper

Same old rhetoric from JW spokesmen, " All the answers you are seeking can be found on our website. " Uh-huh. You mean the " answers " indicating the WT Society's financial fallout from overextending themselves in far too many construction costs and loans and how even Bank of America has refused to extend credit to the WT Society due to them defaulting on loans previously ? You mean the " answers " indicating WT Society's refusal to answer questions in court upon demands by judges concerning the 23,000 pedophiles in their organization they have a Database file on - AND that the WT Society is in financial stress due to possibly over a minimum of 100 + child abuse lawsuits against them in process worldwide right now ? You mean those kind of answers ? Interesting- I don't see that information on your website.

Also this quote is interesting, " Because of the mergers, qualified ministers who had been serving in small branches can now concentrate on preaching the good news. "

Translation : " We don't have enough financial capability to keep long time " well trained " workers at our Bethel facilities - so we have to send them back to their home congregations and let their friends and family try to put them to work. If they stay busy in the ministry- we are confident God Jehovah will drop any employment into these 65 year old faithful servants laps ! Be assured of our " warm Christian love ".

Anybody know how to vomit ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

18

jws deny shunning, yet lie to not look bad

by Ghiagirl in

i recently decided to take matters into my own hands with my husbands family who have nothing to do with us.

his mom has seen my son twice since he has been born and his dad has never met him.

his family will pop in every few months, on top of that like in my last post ask for for money.

flipper

GHIAGIRL- I'm so sorry that you have to deal with your husbands toxic family and this shunning issue. This shunning issue hits many of us ex-JW's after awhile. I have an almost 6 month old grandson that my JW daughter and her husband won't let me meet in person - apparently until I start going back to JW meetings. That's NOT going to happen.

I'm not going to be manipulated by these smarmy, dishonest tactics in order to meet my grandchild . I'll meet him on MY terms at THEIR house or another location - not a goddamned Kingdom Hall.

Don't give in to your husbands JW families manipulation techniques. They are TAUGHT these techniques from the WT leaders and their indoctrination through their meetings and publications. At least you have more CONTROL in you and your husbands situation - you HAVE the child - I don't. My daughter controls the situation with my grandson. So I REALLY have to be careful and avoid setting my daughter off - or I'll NEVER see my grandson.

But it doesn't teach these cult members anything to give in to their unreasonable and unethical demands. It's best to stand your ground, stand up to them and protect your son. Just know that you aren't suffering alone dealing with these mind controlled people- many of us are experiencing this. We are here for you to sound off to. Take care. Hang in there, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

32

After 50 years Zealous Service, My Elder Friends goes Inactive

by James Jack in

i asked him what happened.

he said "him and his wife lived a full theocratic life for jehovah.

doing everything the organization and the traveling brothers told them to do, like work part time, regular pioneer, serve where the need is great.

flipper

JAMES- Thanks for posting this story. What a sad situation. But please tell your friends that we are here for them and we are thinking about them. They are REALLY to be commended for exiting the JW cult so late in life. They must be really strong mentally. So many older folks can't face that they wasted their lives for years- so they stay in. It's still an extremely tough road to hoe at that age though. Good for them that they finally have their freedom. But the financial losses and price they had to pay was horrific. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

40

The two elders threaten my sister again

by opusdei1972 in

as i reported here in this forum, some time ago, my sister was constantly harried by two elders so as to be submitted to a judiciary committee for apostasy.

these two elders were constantly hounding her in the street when she walks to go to her job.

so she had to send them a notary letter in which she wrote that she would attend the judiciary committee only with her attorney.

flipper

OPUDEI- I'm so sorry that your sister is being harassed like this by these elders. What jerks ! She lives in a South American country ? Good ! those cops don't mess around down there. By all means your sister should inform the police, get a restraining order, or even use a phone to record pictures of these dolts stalking her. Anything she needs to do to pressure them to stop- she should pursue. Good luck to her. Tell her we care and are thinking about her