JAYDEE- Thanks my friend. It is a tough situation- but I WILL keep fighting the fine fight. I'm not one who easily gives up. While there's life- there's hope
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My JW Daughter sends a Letter to us Explaining her Shunning of Me
by flipper inmy wife and i sent my 22 yr.old pioneer witness daughter and her husband a anniversary card and $ 40.00 and flowers the end of april.
my daughter wrote mrs. flipper and me each our own individual letters thanking us initially for the gifts - and then went into detail as to why she has not spoken to me for over a year and shunned me.. keep in mind as i paraphrase some of the highlights to these letters that the only negative thing i have said about the organization to my daughter in 3 years was to show her the ap news release about the child abuse settlements by the wt society .
i'll quote parts of the letter to mrs. flipper first :.
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A 12 yr.old Dfed ? 13 people Dfed in 3 years ? I see the Nazi WT regime is alive and well in the congregations you know. Disgusting
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Did you get " Counseled " about the Music you Listened to While you were a JW ?
by flipper infrom the time i was a small boy - i loved rock n' roll music.
beatles, rolling stones, led zeppelin, hendrix.
i started getting slighted for the music i listened to as i lay in my bedroom listening on headphones to led zeppelin's song " black dog " at age 14 with my elder dad looking suspiciously at me as i'm rocking out .
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TALESIN- LOL back with you. I get what you're saying sister . Peace & love.
SPECTRE- Exactly, yeah no doubt very true what you say. LOL.
CAPTAIN SCHMIDEO- Thanks for the quotes from WT's showing how ridiculously stupid WT Society's views of controlling people's music listening really is.
BAKER- That must be hard to be surrounded by WT tunes wherever you go. I believe I'd off myself if I had to listen to those JW tunes constantly
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My JW Daughter sends a Letter to us Explaining her Shunning of Me
by flipper inmy wife and i sent my 22 yr.old pioneer witness daughter and her husband a anniversary card and $ 40.00 and flowers the end of april.
my daughter wrote mrs. flipper and me each our own individual letters thanking us initially for the gifts - and then went into detail as to why she has not spoken to me for over a year and shunned me.. keep in mind as i paraphrase some of the highlights to these letters that the only negative thing i have said about the organization to my daughter in 3 years was to show her the ap news release about the child abuse settlements by the wt society .
i'll quote parts of the letter to mrs. flipper first :.
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TOOMANYMUFFINEGGS- I agree, the problem with my daughter wouldn't be fixed by going back- I realize that- one of the many reasons I would never go back . It would send my daughter the wrong message -
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The " rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. " THAT is what the corporate leaders want, THAT is what the 1 % want , THAT is what the wealthy elite Republican leaders want - in order to keep people in their allegedly " proper place and pecking order ".
Wall street wants poorer people " dumbed down " so they won't see through the veneer that is Hillary & Trump as they know these people are desperate and won't do the research needed to see that their lives are being duped by billionaire elitists. That's one reason Trump stated in a victory speech about a month ago , " We LOVE the undereducated " ! He doesn't actually love THEM ! He loves that they are UNDEREDUCATED because they won't bother to call him on his shit !
It's the same principle as JW's NOT doing research about the corruption of the WT Society. They put their fingers in their ears and go " nah, nah ,nah " and refuse to research the facts. Same concept for those who think Hillary and Trump are the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Nothing is further from the truth. They are unscrupulous, dishonest billionaires who have lied, manipulated their way to the top 1 % of wealth and are sociopath's who refuse to admit wrongdoing. You want THEM to lead this country ?
Time to take a SERIOUS look at Bernie Sanders and how he actually has financed his own campaign instead of whoring himself out to the corporates and global elitists who want to crush the poor. Sanders is a much better choice for president
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Jehovah’s Witness charity loses appeal against Commission inquiry
by Researchedandenlightened inlet the investigations commence.
http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/governance/news/content/21470/jehovahs_witness_charity_loses_appeal_against_commission_inquiry.
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Very good news. As Punk says - the WT Society needs to continue to be exposed regarding their faulty child abuse policies. Sounds like that's going to happen. It just may get delayed somewhat due to having to go to the different court to bicker over which documents the WT Society will have to release- but it does sound like it's going forward. May justice prevail -
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Classic "divide and conquer" stuff that keeps what's left of the middle class pissed at the lower classes. I grew up in a family of wannabe republicans, hearing about "welfare queens". They were gonna vote Trump until he really blew it.
Being 60 years old now, I've seen the wages go down, prices go up, work go overseas and corporate higher ups getting obscenely huge pay. I've been self employed and at times worked for people with large money - I was advised by one to grow my business : "Hire a bunch of Mexicans, pay as low as possible." To my protests of not wanting to use people that way - "People like that can't handle money - if you pay them too much you just make problems for them." No joke.
Anyone got a video of Corporate welfare folks complaining about being cut off?
Mrs. Flipper
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What would we all do if the watchtower collapsed tomorrow ?
by stan livedeath ini would probably collapse laughing.
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Peer Pressure amongst witnesses
by stuckinarut2 inhave you noticed just how strong peer pressure is amongst witnesses?.
the desire to match or better one another's "spiritual accomplishments" or decisions in life?.
pioneering - because it is the "right" thing to do.. answering at meetings...perhaps multiple times - because it is the "right" thing to do.. choice of employment.
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STUCKINARUT- My wife and I were just talking about this - this morning. And talking about everybody trying to outdo another fellow JW. And talking about the flip-side of this coin also that if a fellow JW expresses doubts about the GB or WT organization - it's like that person who expresses doubts gets whispered about behind his or her back - and in actuality NO JW can openly talk to others in the congregation about their doubts or they will be ratted out to the elders ! It's like the old Mad magazine " spy versus spy " episode where your fellow JW's do NOT honor boundaries and will rat each other out to elders because someone has doubts. Thus you get all these sinister people running around all paranoid scared shitless about talking against the WT organization- or a person they consider a " brother " or a " sister " will rat them out for their doubts. I mean- THIS is insanity . Peace out, Mr. Flipper -
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I am losing
by NoMoreHustle ini haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.
it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.
the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.
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NO MORE HUSTLE- Never say never. As long as there's life- there's hope that with time your JW wife may see the injustices of the WT Society. You just never know. There are many people on this board who have admitted they were SUCH fanatic JW's and now they are caring, loving, empathetic ex-JW's who help others here to move on with life after exiting the Witnesses. Just stay kind to her, avoid controversial JW topics so she doesn't keep putting up a wall to you- and keep showing her that you care- but don't compromise your principles just to please her in a pretend way . She will see through it and you won't like yourself for doing it. We are with you bud. Keep on keeping on and we support you. And I agree with Lisa Rose , please READ Steve Hassan's books. It is a must read for ex-JW's to see HOW the WT Society controls Witnesses psychologically. It will help you understand your wife more and you'll be able to help her more successfully. Peace out man, Mr. Flipper