Posts by flipper

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There is No Reason to be Afraid!! ( of Freedom )

by kairos in

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thinking of leaving the jws for good is frightening.engaging a quality fade is nerve racking!there can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.. one must weigh the consequences of leaving with true freedom.yes, that kind.

where you always make the decisions in your own life.. no need to be reckless and wild to destruction.

be like almost everyone else in society that enjoys life to the full and looks out for their fellow.look around you at happy, friendly people in your community.

flipper

KAIROS- Great thread topic- really well written indeed. I think that's a fair appraisal of the situation- many of us DID go through HELL, er , Gehenna to exit this high control organization. But as you say - the price we pay is TOTALLY worth it. The thing I cherish the most in my 12 years out after escaping " witch " mountain ( WT mountain ) is like you state the freedom of mind to decide for myself how my life will go ! Some of us who were born-ins ( my JW parents became JW's 8 years before I was born ) had absolutely no choice in the matter for the first 18 years of our life. For many folks that's almost 25 % of your life ! So it does indeed take a TREMENDOUS amount of courage to take the chance of moving forward in life away from the cult when you know a nuclear fallout will occur with JW family relationships - whether it's adult children like I have or siblings, parents , spouses or whomever.

I was 44 years old when I exited almost 12 years ago and aside from marrying Mrs. Flipper 9 years ago- it's the best decision I ever made in my life. I'm able to pursue hobbies and interests that I never had the time for and even pursue earning a little more money in my business without being made to feel I'm being " materialistic " when I'm just trying to get by, pay the bills , and feed my family ! We are the owners of our own destiny. We don't have to give away our power to anybody anymore without our consent ! Freedom kicks ass totally.

Although I hope my adult daughters some day exit the JW organization - I do have my son out and we are close . And nephews and nieces who are now out of the cult. So we all will be there for any other JW relatives who decide to exit in their own time- however we won't sacrifice our freedom of mind to go back and pretend to be a JW just to have a " fake " relationship where we wouldn't be happy anyway . Our JW relatives may some day respect us more if we stick to our guns and by living a happy, successful, good life it will make them wonder HOW we are able to do it without the JW organization. Cause them a little cognizant dissonance ! Anyway- Kind of how I see it ! I'm glad you have your freedom of mind Kairos and I'm glad to be a friend . Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Remember Going Out In Field Service Before Thursday and Friday's Heat-Stroke Convention at Dodger Stadium?

by The1975Blues in

i don't think the kids will remember going out in field service at your convention's city location helping the fiends do their territory.

on top of the horrendous heat-stroke sitting at dodger stadium we had to preach earlier in the week!

i heard some elderly witnesses speaking about "those were the good old days they thought" the grand old time they had while visiting the city of los angeles!

flipper

1975 BLUES- Interesting thread. I remember being a young kid of about 10 years old sitting at those horridly HOT, HOT L.A. Dodger stadium assemblies in the late 1960's that would last for 6 or 7 days ( seemed like eternity ) and sweat pouring off of me as I tried to scrounge under an umbrella that my dad and mom huddled under. It was BRUTAL.

We lived a couple hours north and we stayed with my grandmother down there - so we never went out in service there. The ONLY silver lining to these horrid district conventions at Dodger Stadium were the damned Snow Cones with grape flavoring that they would make. It kept me from passing out on the spot and melting in my seat. I constantly was begging my mom and dad for those Snow Cones ! LOL. Dodger Stadium assemblies were a chapter of my young life I'd just as soon forget . I'm glad we all have our freedom now and don't have to sit through those horrendous occasions

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Not on JW.org : Update: FOUR Connecticut Jehovah's Witnesses sex abuse victims sue Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

by Balaamsass2 in

branford attorney takes on sexual abuse of children, jehovah's witnessesstory.

comments.

printcreate a hardcopy of this page.

flipper

CALEB'S - From what I heard or read on another thread on this board - the Connecticut child abuse victims did not win their case , sadly. The judge was a prick and ruled against them , why- I don't know. Perhaps someone else will be able to bring up the child abuse thread that explained the ruling in favor of the WT Society. Maybe Barbara Anderson knows more details about this case. You might PM her. Perhaps the JW child abuse victims will appeal, but I haven't seen anything recently on this. You might Google JW Connecticut Child abuse case and come up with something. Best I can do bud

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Anonymous Message To Jehovah's Witness Religion and the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society

by oppostate in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tbm6hpys9w.

opjw.

flipper

Right on. Whether this particular threat is legit. or not- it doesn't matter. It's something that needs to be addressed and spoken up about anyway- the injustices and indiscretions of the WT Society. I'm all for it if it's legit . Hope they hack the hell out of the WT Society. And expose lots of immoral skeletons in the JW organization closet. The more people that do this - the better. Who cares what JW's think ? The public and real world view and opinion of this criminal organization is what counts- not what JW's think

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Teenage Jehovah’s Witness refuses blood transfusion and dies

by mana11 in

http://www.jwblood.org/teenage-jehovahs-witness-refuses-blood-transfusion-and-dies/.

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flipper

WT Society is a criminal organization causing deaths. Spread the word

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

flipper

FISHERMAN- Just read the link to the letter yourself that I posted of the 2012 WT Society letter to the elders and figure it out. You seem to be an intelligent guy who thinks he knows it all. No one needs to hold your hand here junior. Read the letter and weep

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

flipper

With some of the uninformed statements being hurled around here by WT and JW apologists- thought I might share the link here to the WT Society's letter to the elders in 2012 as it shows how irresponsible they have become in recent years . And how they try to hide and cover their own legal ass to the detriment of child abuse victims. Here is the link : https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1659654-jehovah.

This should clear up some concerns for any WT apologists who want to read what the WT Society really says in it's confidential letters to elders

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Picking Someone To Be An Illustrious Member Of the Governing Body/Faithful & Discreet A Hole Club What Is It They Look For?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

this is a work in progress so let me postulate a few and then post your observations.. i think when we examine this subject we will be able to understand how they picked this recent batch of new comers who can just about manage to even tie their shoe laces and clearly are almost complete idiots.. i'm sure they test any gb hopefuls as to loyalty and courage to face pressure and make defenses for the corporation sound at least plausible and with in the limits of understanding imposed by the corporations edicts.. i know anthony morris came from wealth and he mentioned in one of his talks that his aged father tried to warn him about giving money to the wt corporation and he said that what his dad didn't know was that he was the society (he may have been trying to get some money from his wealthy dad to give to the corporation as sort of an investment in loyalty that would catapault him to gb stardom and who knows maybe even chief honcho.. so i wonder can some buy their way to the top?

after all it is a scam operation based on bullshit and all the members of the elite are money hungry if not for themselves then for their sock puppet jehovah/me.. what say you?.

flipper

I think that they draw straws to see how many JW children these guys allowed to be molested in the various congregations they served in as elders by covering it up. The more cover ups allowed - then those guys get selected. I'm sure that's part of the criteria. Example : Ted Jaracz

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Candace settled and she deserves the peace.

by snare&racket in

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friends

"hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?".

flipper

SNARE & RACKET- I agree with every word you state in your opening thread. Couldn't have stated it any better or more clearly. Well written my friend, Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

flipper

PERRY- Just out of sheer morbid curiosity - how do you feel about a Sasquatch and human females procreating ? Is THIS a sin ? It actually HAS happened and been documented in Canada and the state of Washington. It produced a hairier form of hybrid offspring who ( understandably ) had a hard time in society due to prejudices from knuckleheads. What if two male Sasquatches got together ? Would it bother you ? What about two female Sasquatches ? Would you be offended ? Granted they both might cough up hairballs- but that's for another thread entirely.

But the fact remains that you have a group of scientists right there in Texas who proved the Sasquatch DNA was human and a mix of other " unidentifiable " nature. So don't sweat it- if there is a God I'm sure that he's down with human and Sasquatches having sex. Sasquatches have kidnapped Native American girls for centuries and incorporated them into their tribes. Perhaps Sasquatches descend from the Bible character " Esau " - wasn't he called the" HAIRIER " of the two brothers between him and Jacob ? Thought I'd throw an interesting twist into this discussion . LOL