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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

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  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  My young Sister and her Husband (20 and 23yrs old) are fake/very moderate witlesses, they celebrate birthdays and xmas with my other sister who is no longer active. They regularly drink to excess, have only worldly friends and swear like troopers.

  They disagree with a number of doctrines yet still they stay in, getting to most meetings, minimum preaching effort and also giving talks.

  My Sis is trying to make Mum and Dad happy and is still afraid of armaggedon. My Bro in law has no family 'in' anymore and doesnt believe that only JWs will get through armageddon.

  They are still stuck in the stupid cult but at least they have started to move away from it by their actions.

  Excellent Jemba. I'll take that as oppose to an ubber Witness any day.
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

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  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  Maybe the reform site could be a start for some dipping a toe in the waters of the Internet

  That's a good idea Phizzy. This site is great, but it may scare some away. The reform site might just open up their eyes enough to start searching for answers.
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  Moderation, reform, change, these are things this religion/cult isn't remotely interested in.

  Quendi I'm not sure about that. I suppose if we could survey a significant sample of JWs we might actually determine that. Or by "religion/cult" do you mean the leadership?
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  Rutherford "Reformed" the org. from Russel. 1980 was a big reform at Bethel. How do you like the changes ?

  Balamsass, didn't Rutherford stage a coup which is how he got the reigns? If one single person was able to do it, then doesn't that show that it can be done?

  1980 is another great example. The fact that they had to purge all those people shows there's a moderate element within the religion.
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  Just venting - I hate the Society.

  by donny in

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  Hermano

  Sorry to hear that.
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  A Kinder, Gentler Jehovah Emerges at the 2012 DC?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  having attended this summer's district convention, i'm confused.

  has a kinder, gentler jehovah emerged?.

  acquiring an obedient heart-is it possible?

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  Hermano

  As an old timer Bethelite said, "There is a war going on at Bethel"

  I think this is very possible, JakeM2012.
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  Robert King isn't 'moderate'. He is pro JW, but thinks the Governing Body is wrong where it doesn't agree with him.

  Black Sheep, maybe that's not so much a matter of moderation and more about mental illness.
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  Reform movement= apostates (wt definition) that are stuck because of family and don't believe the crap anymore, hoping for a change. Good LUCK! Oh, I'm not supposed to use that term Lucky.

  LOL, JakeM2012. I know the leadership would like to brand them as apostates. If enough of those spread their ideas and called for a change instead of hoping for a change, what would happen.
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  There is a whole sub-culture of apostates who believe that the WT Society, though corrupt, is still some kind of vehicle for Jehovah's purpose. Such ones propose that bible prophecies regarding the restoration of the Jews can be applied to the restoration of the organization. I'm not saying this is what these guys believe, merely that these are the extremes that some "reformists" can go to. If that's the case, perhaps "moderate" isn't a good word with which to describe them!

  I guess I would agree with you about that, Cedars. Not all Moderate JWs are the same. Like you said before, at least it's a start.

  Extremist JW who thinks death to all who dare disobey the faithful and discreet slave - Worst

  Moderate JW who thinks there are problems in the Org. but I've got nothing to do Jehovah will take care of it - Bad

  Moderate JW who thinks there are problems in the Org. what can I do to make it better - Better

  Moderate JW who has tried to make things better and realizes it isn't going to change so let me try to get my family out - Better still
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Hermano

  If enough JWs pushed for a doctrinal change it would occur. I think we underestimate the power of the group.

  That's an interesting thought, Qcmbr. The Society, as far as I know, is directed by committees. I suposed if enough people open to change got on those committees it may happen.