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  why did man go from living 900 years to 90?

  by sowhatnow in

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  i cant recall the scripture, where it says than only a few men will he live to be 80 years or so, can anyone recall that?.

  so then im wondering, if it is a fact that men lived long years 900 in some cases, for what reason would god limit our lifespan if our time is so short compared to his?.

  how on earth does man go from living 8 and 9 hundred years down to 80 to 100 ?.

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  'cause of the flood n stuff...water canopy and what not.
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Old Witnessy Pics

  by snugglebunny in

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  so what have you got?.

  i'll start.. 1958 aboard steamship arosa star, english and german jw's bound for new york for 8 day assembly at yankee stadium.. .

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  That's a good point about technology. They even had a radio station back then.

  I guess from my vantage point I look at JW TV as a symbol of everything that's changed in the past 10 years, but I see your point. While it may be something completely new to today's Witnesses, it would be consistent with the general outlook they had in the 40s.
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  Old Witnessy Pics

  by snugglebunny in

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  so what have you got?.

  i'll start.. 1958 aboard steamship arosa star, english and german jw's bound for new york for 8 day assembly at yankee stadium.. .

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  What would the folks in the pictures think of JW TV, assuming they didn't live long enough to see it for themselves?
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  How long do JW study the bible with someone? Until baptism?

  by Lynnie in

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  2. beliefs

  i have a 35 year old cousin who got baptized last year after rejecting the jw since she was 13. not sure what happened to change her mind, i suspect it's all about family since her dad is an elder and her two sisters are very much in.

  her oldest sister is married to a middle management guy in bethel.

  so she studied for about 2 years until she decided to get baptised.

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  I got baptized in 95. Back then they were supposed to study two books with you. The Live Forever book and a second one. The guy who gave me study kept it up for a while after I got baptized but eventually just stopped showing up. It was completely unnecessary. I'd become a teenage JW zealot and this man had a family to look after. Plus, he could no longer count his time, so what was the point.

  A year or two later they came out with the Knowledge book and instructed witnesses to try to wrap up the study within six months on account of Armageddon's proximity. That was nearly 20 years ago.
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  National Sibling's Day?

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i'm not sure how many of you are aware but today is national siblings day.

  what i find odd is that social media, fb, instagram etc... i see tons and tons of witnesses posting pictures of their siblings with the caption or hash tag, "national siblings day".

  how is that any difference then fathers day, mothers day and so on?

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  Nobody cares. Unless the GB says it's bad, then all the dubs will wipe their social media accounts accordingly.

  People are not allowed, and in many cases don't want, to have their own views.
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  Did you know that murdered singer (1995), Selena, was raised a JW? April 16th is her birthday. Read more...

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/murdered-singer-selena-was-raised-a-jw/.

  murdered singer, selena, was raised a jw?.

  did you know that selena quintanilla was raised in a devout jehovahs witness family?

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  I was a Mexican-American teenager in Texas when Tejano music was at its peak. Selena was the unquestionable star of the genre. For people in my demographic, her death had the impact I imagine John Lennon's death had on the wider population. It was a real punch in the gut.

  It came out early on in her career that her family were JWs. They grew up in Corpus Christ, which was a few hours away from my hometown. There were people in my hall who knew people in Selena's hometown who confirmed the rumors. The family was said to have been "inactive" although they were often seen at assemblies.

  After Selena died, her father gave many interviews and he mentioned their JW beliefs in several of them. Her brother formed his own band (which is still in existence). His arms are completely covered in tattoos, so I very much doubt he considers himself a Witness.
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  Something a CO once said.

  by cappytan in

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  "there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.

  fever, fracture or funeral.

  everything else is a sorry excuse.

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  neverendingjourney

  This point was explicitly made in an elder school a few years back, on how to "reason" with "brothers" who are making "wrong choices".

  That's interesting. I don't think that's been the attitude in my area in 20 years or so. Then again, I've been absent the past 10 years and they might have reverted to a hard line stance, but that's not the sense I get from talking with my family about congregation goings-on.
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  Something a CO once said.

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.

  fever, fracture or funeral.

  everything else is a sorry excuse.

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  neverendingjourney

  Looking back on it, it's clear I became an active Witness during a transitional period in their history.

  Even though my parents converted when I was an infant, I didn't want to have anything to do with the religion until the mid 90s when I was in high school. I came under the wing of what I would now consider to be an "old school elder." He seemed to sincerely believe we had no more than a few years left before Armageddon. The '95 generation flip-flop seems to have changed that, but that's a story for another time.

  This elder shared the CO's meeting attendance views. In fact, he trained me to believe you should quit a job if it interferes in any way with meeting attendance. This wasn't an uncommon view.

  A few years later, ministerial servants were being appointed who did shift work. They had X number of meetings per month they would miss, but would try to make them up at neighboring halls as much as they could. That would have been unheard of 10 years prior. One of these guys ended up going to Bethel and it's as if God himself blessed the arrangement. There were people in our congregation who'd given up good jobs over meeting attendance and all of a sudden it was no big deal. Must have been a bitter pill for them to swallow.

  There are other, better examples of significant changes in JW culture during that time, but I don't want to write a book or derail this thread.
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  Why only 7 or 8 members on the Governing Body?

  by Gilgamesh in

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  now and then someone hears a rumor that the gb might go with 12 members instead of the 8 (or now 7) they currently have.

  the value of 12 is understandable, which might even drive the rumors every time they plan to add another 4 or 5 new persons to the gb helpers list.

  of course, a rumor that steals their thunder may also promote a delay, even if true.. i'm sure this quote from the watchtower was previously commented upon as a good explanation for the watch tower's best reason to leave the number at 7 or 8:.

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  neverendingjourney

  Obviously, I don't have any specific insight into the minds of these men.

  However, you can see how any governing structure that gives a veto right to a 1/3 minority could easily devolve into gridlock.

  Let's say there's a contentious issue. For sake of illustration, let's say it's the blood ban. Let's further suppose that 4 men are currently in favor of repealing it but 3 are against it. The 3 men in the minority might not want to approve any additional GB members for fear that their voting power would get diluted. If they were to add two additional members and it turns out they are in favor of repeal, they'd lose their ability to block the reversal as the vote would now be 6 in favor and 3 against.

  Just take a look at the U.S. Congress and how dysfunctional it's become since the senate began requiring routine measures to achieve a 60% approval. And that's just one house of one of the three branches of the federal government.

  Trying to run a multi-million member, multi-billion dollar religion by committee, much less by one that requires a 2/3 supermajority vote to implement any major change, is completely ludicrous and likely a major factor in this religion's decline.