now that cynthia franz is no more,what will happen to the production of ray's books?
will someone take over the publishing of the books or will the books go out of print?
those books are too important and need to be published for the next generation.. .
From the Commentary Press (Ray's old publishing company) website:
the present copyright owner ofCrisis of Conscious and In Search of Christian Freedom is committed to further distribution of these publications. More details will be forthcoming.
I wish I knew the inside story better. After Ray's passing, the impression given on the site was that the books would continue to be published through commentary press, but that didn't really ever fully materialize.
hi guys and gals,.
i have written an article that explains how the watchtower society gets from 607 bce to 1914 (http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/faqs/why-is-1914-important/) but i need some input so that i can write an article on how they get from 1914 to (via 1918) 1919.. are we talking about ezra, 1:2-4 when the persian king cyrus allows the israelites to go and rebuild the temple 3 and a half years after exiling them?
if so, how has the watchtower used this passage to get to 1919??.
Evidently the Gentile Times and the seven times of Revelation are the same thing
Evidently Matthew 24 has a second fulfillment
Evidently the Gentile Times aka the seven times begin when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Babylonians
Evidently Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 BC despite what the history textbooks say
Evidently the seven times are composed of seven 360-day years
Evidently the total number of days, 2,520 (360 X 7), are actually years, not day
Evidently we begin counting 2,520 days from 607 BC, when evidently Jerusalem was destroyed, which leads us to 1914
Evidently Satan was ousted from heaven and the end times began in 1914
Evidently there is a parallel between the 3 1/2 years between when Jesus threw out the money changers from the temple and Jesus' appointing of the WT as his special group of followers
Evidently those 3 1/2 years are actual years and not prophetic years composed of days that are actually years
You get the picture...
just fell off my chair whilst listening to the bible "highlights".
someone has actually just said that the flood account actually helps inform scientists on matters that perplex them.
for example for decades they have wondered how the dinosaurs all disappeared but if they looked at the account of the flood then they would see the answer.
Neverending--then how do any sea creatures remain? Noah didnt have a goldfish bowl in his arc did he?
He did have a goldfish bowl. In fact, Jehovah temporarily made all sea life microspic and placed into Noahs's special bowl until the ark made landfall. The water in the bowl was then sprinkled with fairy dust and the sea creatures all returned to their normal size and rushed back to their natural habitats. Except for dinosaur sea life. Dinosaurs were too stupid to find their way back, so they died on shore and their remains were instantly fossilized. Their remains also serve as the source of all crude oil in our modern age. Little known fact.
just fell off my chair whilst listening to the bible "highlights".
someone has actually just said that the flood account actually helps inform scientists on matters that perplex them.
for example for decades they have wondered how the dinosaurs all disappeared but if they looked at the account of the flood then they would see the answer.
Remember sharks werent destroyed in flood....all sea life survived right? So what happened to the sea beasts from the dinosaur age?
And how did both fresh and salt water fish survive if the flood waters covered the tallest mountains? The water would have mixed destroying the suitable habitat for countless number of species.
just fell off my chair whilst listening to the bible "highlights".
someone has actually just said that the flood account actually helps inform scientists on matters that perplex them.
for example for decades they have wondered how the dinosaurs all disappeared but if they looked at the account of the flood then they would see the answer.
the mere fact a Witness of 50 years can still think it's OK to say such a thing says loads about the way the WTS "teaches"
If you were to give my mother a quiz about elementary WT doctrines, I doubt she'd get half of the answers right. In fact, I'm quite certain she would have no idea whether according to WT doctrine the dinosaurs were wiped out by the flood or died off many years before. She simply doesn't care about that kind of thing. She's been a baptized Witness for something like 30 years. I have no idea how she "passed" the question sessions she had with the elders before her baptism.
What's worse, my dad to this day says he expected to see the holy spirit or a vision after being dunked. It's a crazy world. All my mom cared about were that the children were well dressed and well behaved and she wanted to raise her own kids in that environment. My dad was excited that he finally had access to the Bible (he was Catholic) and could now argue with his siblings and "prove" them wrong using the Bible. That was a huge deal. When he was growing up only priests dared attempt to understand the Bible.
catholicism.
islam.
buddhism.
know freddy franz made it a hard rule. Maybe I am wrong on it being in the earlier literature, but i was sure I had seen it. I will check that out, sorry if I was wrong.
No need to apologize. Nobody should expect you to be a human encyclopedia. I know I'm not.
JW Facts, as is to be expected, has a great analysis of the doctrine's development. Rutherford banned the eating of animal blood, but
The Watchtower 1945 Jul 1, pp.199-200 contained the first discussion that God's prohibition also applying to human blood. It included mention of blood transfusions, though not directly forbidding them.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/15/cold-fusion-moves-into-mainstream.
you shills aren't doing your job.
you need to provide more ridicule to stop this movement from saving the human race and changing the world.. hey, i'm just sayin'.
I'm currently reading a book called Physics of the Future by a physicist and science popularizer named Michio Kaku. You might have seen him on TV if you're into science documentaries.
Anyhow, there are a lot of technologies currently being developed that fill one with a sense of awe and wonder. There's no need, in my opinion, to seek out technologies of dubious credibility. Exciting, verifiable technologies are being currently developed.
the preaching the jw.org thing is so strange.
the two generations "new light" is crazy.
but then again i look back at some of the things i believed and taught wonder 'what was i thinking'?
It's all about perspective. Objectively, the WT has gotten more conventional in their beliefs with the passage of time. Gone are the days of pyramid inches, a resurrection of "princes" of the old testament preceding armageddon, ban on organ transplants, and the list goes on and on.
Even with respect to the cultish aspects of the religion, it can't be any worse today than in the aftermath of the Ray Franz expulsion when rules were being invented on the fly to eliminate any possible influence from high-ranking members who were eschewing orthodoxy. In fact, even unbaptized publishers could be shunned. You didn't even have to be baptized. As recently as 7 or 8 years ago parents interacting with disfellowshipped children was tolerated whereas I knew of several elderly people who hadn't spoken to disfellowshipped children in decades because it was absoultely prohibited during their time.
We see things more clearly now that we are out, but I don't think it's really any worse that what's come before.
ladt night i was talking to a coworker who's sister is a witness in my old hall, and i needed some asprin after listening to this.. how can this be tolerated by people who believe that they alone speak the truth ?.
a young couple ( early 30's) had two children, and they adopted another boy from the inner city, so they have three boys under the age of 13.. the father is a construction worker, and mom works pt doing various jobs.. as a babysitter they use the respected teenaged son of a very prominent elder.
well, the parents breakup.
Sitting bac and looking at the whole situation, it is just so mentally insane to me seeing how three families were torn apart, and by playing the system with appearances and sympathy, now everyone is back.
One of the big eye-openers for me was realizing that the people I was meeting outside of the religion were on average better people than the brothers in the hall.
At least now I can choose to not let crazy people into my life. I didn't have that luxury when I was a JW since they were my "brothers."
catholicism.
islam.
buddhism.
Not to make a big stink, but the "mansion" isn't really a mansion as much as a big house
It was a mansion for its time, although it wouldn't properly be considered a mansion by today's standards.
There was a house I saw a few years ago that once belonged to the family of a former U.S. president. It had a historical marker on site that referred to it as so-and-so mansion. The actual name escapes me. That's what it was referred to at the time. It was no bigger than your typical McMansion you see in modern day suburbia, maybe 3,500 sq. ft.
