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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

Spiritual Israel are any and all who belive in Christ, anytime anywhere!
Today can be anyone's last day! Do you bend your knee to the one who has been bestowed the highest name of all?

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

YHWH, is the highest name over all the earth and then some.

Philippians. 2:9-11 :
Therefore also God highly exalted Him,(Jesus the son of man)and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,
that at the name Jesus EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, of those who are in heaven,and on the earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Emiliano

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

117

Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

jr

It is

The highest Name of All is not only the highest over all the earth.

Emiliano

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

Jr.

Yes, its its always true.

Emiliano

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

larc,

Anyone who is a true christian will bear the fruits of the Holy Spirit. This will Identify you among people as being a child of God, The I AM, YHWH. If you dont accept or believe in Jesus, God will not put His name on you. I doesn't matter if you use his name in the title of your group or not.

If you accept Christ you are led by the Spirit. The Spirit is our Seal.

For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. Romans 8:14

In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the Gospel (see 1Cor. 15:1-4: Gospel is identified)of your salvation-having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise.
Who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possesion, to the praise of His Glory. Ephe.1:13,14

And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Ephe. 4:30

You are right, the Name YHWH doesnt seem to be something that was used too often, especially in the New Testament.
What the Christians did, was to preach Christ. Those were the instructions left by Jesus to his followers. Jesus said in Acts 1:8
"and you shall be My Witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth."

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Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

Hi, James I think your post is very accurate on how to address God and the significance of bearing his name. The name is all of what God stands for. It is not any virtue to appropriate the Name Jehovah to one's group and then say just because the name Jehovah is in the name of our group we have a relationship with him.
Thanks for the post.

Emiliano

117

Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

by Jr in

in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

Emiliano

JR

I guess that to you Ezeq. 36 and Rom. 11 are not scriptures!
The words there were not put in there by me.

If you want some deep hidden meaning that some exclusive group may have and no one else, return to the watchtower or some other cult that may claim they have exclusive understanding of Gods word.

The two leaders in Heaven's Gate had exclusive understanding that they were the two witnesses in the book of Revelation.

You had to be in "their group to see the deeper" things of God.

I am sorry that the Bible's face value does not satisfy your elitist need for exclusivity!

The Bible was made available to all the world for a reason. The Catholic chrurch lost exclusive rights to private interpretation many centuries ago.

James, I dont have a problem with your input. It is what I've been saying, that once someone believes they become of God.
When natural israel's heart is changed by Gods spirit being put in them as stated in Ezeq.36:26 they TOO will be of God "heirs to the promise" Rom.8:14-17 circumcised of the heart! It will be the changed heart, no longer their Jewish blood that will truly make them of the Israel of God. That, is attributed to their faith in Christ, your quote from Galatians explains this beautifuly!

I am not saying that they will be any more or less special or exalted!

All I'm saying is that their being broken of is only temporary.
And being Jewish doesnt exculde them from recieving the undeservekindness of God than none will ever deserve. Jr,MDS,BJC2012 when will you desreve it?
By Gods standard we are all, (Gentile or Jewish) filth!
GOD WILL, save us even though we may think that there is something we can Do to attain it on our own efforts or merits.
Which leads back to the supposed "Jr correction"

JEHOVAHS PROMISE TO ABRAHAM IS A UNILATERAL PROMISE

Jr, the only reason you agree or disagree with me is because you resarch what the watchtower has to say.

The Bible disagrees with what the Watchower says in reference to the high standards one must have to keep.

God made a promise to Abraham there was nothing Abraham could or couldnt do about it to deserve it it was only based on the faith that God saw in his heart!

Even the father of faith Abraham wanted to do things his way.
That is why he had a child with the Slave woman (it represented the old covenant the fiutility of man trying to do it)
This action was not showing too much faith, he did not wait on Jehovah to do it His way. He decided to do it on his own, not waiting on Jehovah he had a seed with Hagar, Ishmael.
But Jehovah would not get the credit this way!
This temporary lack of faith did not stop or change Jehovahs WILL to carry out his unilateral promise to Abraham.Nothing but faith was "required of Abraham to recieve Isaac"!
Jehovah said, I WLL and HE WILL. So What did Jehovah do ? HE DID!
Even Though Sarah was very old and it seemed impossible, and on top of that Abrahm screwed up having a child with a slave woman.
God kept his PROMISE ! Isaac. What action did Abraham do or not do to have Keep his promise? It was done AS GOD PROMISED, in spite of Abrahms own faith lacking, misguided efforts! It is Gods work not man's) Man misses the mark! The target was Sarah but he Aimed for the lowly slave. Faith in God and waiting on His Ability to do the work for us allows for the Holy spirit to work inside of our dead body!
Sarahs womb was dead. But it was Gods work that gave it life! That's the work of God, LIFE, God gives us that gift! Not man's efforts!

Waiting on God to do HIS work in our lives allows us to be led by HIM. It is only this way that we will produce great fruits of faith
such as the offering of Isaac in sacrifice to Jehovah.
Abraham by now knew to wait to see the work of God. Salvation is done by the Hand of God not man's hand. Who stopped Abraham ? It was God!
Salvation is what God does through the faith man has in HIM.
" For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD; not as a result of works, that no one should boast. For we are all HIS workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, wich God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." Ephesians 2:8-10
This is prefigured in Abraham's life.
His works, (Ishmael) were nothing to boast about when he did not have faith.When Abraham through faith waited on Jehovah, Jehovah's works had been prepared for Abraham and God himself would walk him through them.

Jehovah's High standards are only the works that HE does. The only thing we need to do is to have faith that he WILL do them and allow him to do His good works in our lives.The holy spirit will lead us through that walk of faith and then we will see the WORK OF GOD that He has prepared beforehand.
That is our struggle, to continue on believing that GOD WILL DO what HE SAID HE WILL DO.
That is The Abraham faith. He is the father of Faith not because he always believed. But because he shows what happens when you dont believe and How God Works in us When you do Belive.

Jr, MDS,BJC2012, "logical"?,

I know you dont believe in God's word at its face value.
Abraham too thought that God must have meant something other than what he said. It couldnt be at "face value",its some obscure deep meaning perhaps, he probably meant it should be Haggar?

So let it be a lesson dont put words in Gods mouth!
That is a lack of faith!

SALVATION GOD WILL DO IT THAT'S "HIS WORK" he is better at it than you or I,SO get out of the way, relax and BELIEVE, God takes over from there. Let GOD TAKE OVER . HE GETS ALL THE GLORY

The glory of belonging to some "exclusive group of special deep understanding" that leads to some short lived fleshly result like Abraham's Ishmael is not my Idea of trusting in God at the face value of what he says!

I encourage you all to take God seriously and to accept his word at face value. God means what he says and says what he means.

I know, I know. "But that takes faith"! And it can at times be scary to not be the ones in control. We all struggle with that!

God is in control no one cant take that away from Him.

We just have to live our lives as if we really "BELIEVE" that!

And that is what it is all about

The greatest Gift of All is God's
Love.
We have access through Faith.

I know it can be hard to stay on that course of belief , but it is a struggle worth fighting to keep!
I Pray we all keep trusting and believing in God and His Work of Salvation by His own Hand! That we all may one day say like Paul:

"I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith." 2Tim.4:7

Doing all this in Love for you all, I would like in conclusion quote the words of Paul in Ephesians 6:23,24

Peace be to the bretheren, and love with faith,from God the father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ with a love incorruptible.

with Love; David, alias "Emiliano"