Finkelstein
You can never kill the human imagination.
And that's precisely why the christinsanes murdered between 100 and 200 million of my kind. We had the imagination to look beyond their lies and their stupidity.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
Finkelstein
You can never kill the human imagination.
And that's precisely why the christinsanes murdered between 100 and 200 million of my kind. We had the imagination to look beyond their lies and their stupidity.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
SimonSays
... there is then a supreme being at work, whether you frame it as God or a highly intellectual micro biologist.
As a biological piece of engineering, the human body is a piss poor effort. god must have been smokin' something he shouldn't have been at the time if he designed us, that's all I can say.
No biologist creates something as wonderful as a woman's pleasure beach and then places it next to the sewage works.
What kind of an idiot designs DNA in such a way that it is possible to mutate in such a way that cancer results?
You telling me that someone creates something as complex as the human mind in such a way that it is prone to getting Alzheimer's later in life?
I could go on and on about what a disaster the human body is. It works, yes. But not well. It's all too obvious that it evolved.
Oh, and when you talk to your invisible friend, do thank him for creating AIDS and Ebola.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
GrreatTeacher
You still can't speak of disbelief in God in polite circles in most of the US.
There are parts of the UK where that's true also, especially in small towns and villages where everyone knows everything about everyone else and, what they don't know they make up. That said, I couldn't give a flying fart about convention and being polite. I got past that one long ago.
At least we CAN do it on this forum.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
SimonSays
Even though science has made extraordinary advances, it still has not found the origin of life.
You forgot to add the word 'YET' to the end of that sentence. Man hasn't found the origin of life YET. But, Man will and, when he does, it wont have anything to do with a deity because they don't exist.
And, just because Man hasn't found the origin of life, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT A SKY WIZARD WAS RESPONSIBLE.
People here may well be 'junior evolutionists' as you put it, but what they aren't are idiots who believe in superstitious nonsense such as god.
So the quest for a man made theory through existence from nothing would be equally preposterous.
Please go away and read about M-theory and whilst your here, perhaps you would like to explain the origins of god?
a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
Telemetry11
According to your argument then, it's impossible for even a simple protein molecule to have emerged on its own.
Therefore, god did it.
But, god can't have done it because god is a figment of Man's imagination therefore, the mechanism that we assume to have created proteins must be wrong.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
HMTM
Actually, I find myself agreeing with the vast majority of your post content.
That said, the genie isn't out of the bottle yet but the cork is. Science is just too far down the road to finding out how this universe came into being to turn back now. Once it is known why and how the universe was created, god's as good as dead and buried because, what ever the answer is, it sure as hell won't involve god or a deity of any description.
The world's governments may well need religion but what are you gonna do?, zeroise CERN's and MIT's budgets?
I happen to believe that Dawkins is right. Christianity could disappear within a generation. That's all it should take and that's probably all it will take. Why would it take longer?
You only need to look at the ex-communist states to see how quickly communism has been replaced by capitalism. Why should christinsanity take any longer to disappear?
Besides, chistinsanity is on its way out anyway. All it needs is one lasting push and it's game over. Look at the UK. Churches are closing, congregations are dwindling and, instead of one sky pilot looking after a single parish, he now has several to look after - and all are dying on their feet.
What you state in your post is correct, Governments do need religion. People do need hope. They need the belief that a better life is waiting for them after death. Governments don't have the resources to give people a good life now. However, deity based religions will still go down the pan when science discovers how the universe came about. It doesn't matter how much people need to believe in deities. If deities didn't create the universe, then their existence is nullified.
Man needed to believe in deities in order to explain the natural phenomena in the world eg. the wind, tides, rain, thunder, lightning etc. Then christinsanity came along which replaced the old gods. It sought to control Man by creating within him the fear of death, which he didn't have previously.
When science came along, it should have replaced christinsanity. christinsanity should have died. But, it didn't because, through their lies, they had attained complete control. christinsanity held back science and so the changes that should have come at least a hundred years ago, never came. Now, those changes are coming. Man doesn't need christinsanity. christinsanity needs Man.
For the last 2,000 years, man has been using christinsanity as a crutch. The condition that required the crutch (fear of death) was engineered by christinsanity itself. Some of us have found that we don't need the crutch and this movement is growing and spreading.
Man needs to grow up and throw away his crutch. He doesn't need it.
Where's all the money going to come from to help increase the lot of the poor?
From the christstain churches. They have been robbing the poor for centuries. Now it's time to give back what they stole.
Who/what is the richest entity on the planet?
Apple Corp?
Nope - the catholic church.
Man didn't evolve to bow down to some non-existent deity. Man doesn't need to believe in some non-existent deity. That was all the work of religions.
Slowly, Man is freeing himself of the shackles that are his religion. Long may it continue.
First, Man must prove to himself that no deity created the universe. Then, freedom will follow.
please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.
ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.
things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.
Xanthippe
The Christians were taught to fear death because they feared judgement.
My feeling is that christards were taught to fear death through the creation of heaven and hell because they could threaten people with hell and reward them with heaven and thus control them. From about the 13th. century onwards, the church allowed the rich to 'pre-pay' their way into heaven by donating money and land to the church. That's how the christards got to be the rich assholes they now are. What a horrible sect christinsanity is.
If you haven't been, you must visit the Parthenon. Oh, and make sure you sign the petition to give the Elgin marbles back to Greece.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
HMTM
This is a proper post and is deserving of a proper response. I don't have the time now but there will be one waiting for you when you sign on in the morning.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
GDA
what r u going to do when God shows you he's God?
Do the logical thing and believe.
However, the chances of that happening ain't looking good.
in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.
this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.
today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.
@Morpheus
@dolt, there are people who still question that earth is a sphere. If such basic and easily proven facts are discounted something as ephemeral as god will always be believed in.
Unfortunately for Man, methinks that you are correct.