Posts by Doltologist

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Ignorant Atheist Talk Show Host Destroyed by Agnostic Dr. Bart Erhman! Topic "Did Jesus and Paul exist?"

by MagicMItchJensen in

i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.

the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.

1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.

Doltologist

Magic

The point that I'm making is that, once upon a time, we just accepted that god, jesus, etc. existed because religtards told us so.

Life isn't like that any more (thank goodness).

We now question - especially religtard dogma - and so we should. At least, non-jovies do anyhoo.

There was a time when we just accepted Josephus and Tacitus and the babble.

You state: "No rational scholar or anyone the historical community and consensus takes serious doubts "a religious man named Jesus Christ existed",

I think that you'll find Carrier does and puts a coherent and logical argument for doing so.

You also write: Dr. Erhman and Dr. Meier both accept the fact if you deny the historical evidence Jesus existed your going to have to wipe the slate clean of all historical figures existing since there's no evidence written by the scribes proving historical figures existed.

Rubbish. Each historical figure has to be taken on their own merits. The fact is that a hell of a lot rests on the existence of jesus and, right now, his existence rests on some very flimsy evidence.

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This is a topic I am going to kill with my opening post.Why haven`t the Major religions of Christendom exposed J.W.`s as the true Apostates

by smiddy in

i am initially thinking of the major religious institutions of christianity , catholic ,many branches , church of england , and the major protestant religions , too numerous to mention here.. after all their is 40,000 plus christian religions in the world today ?so obviously j.w.`s are not the only false religion .. so my real question is really , to do with the mainstream christian religions , why are`nt they more aggressive in their condemnation of the jehovah witness religion for their obvious failings ,flip backs ,contradictions ,prophecy`s that never eventuated , end of the world predictions ,re-inventing their past history , even distancing themselves from their past history , and their founding members , such as c.t.russell and j.f.rutherford whose policies they now reject... they need to get on board and bleed it for all it`s worth .. smiddy .

Doltologist

The last time that the CofE opened is gob, the press found out that they were a major WONGA shareholder.

The katlickers have scandal after scandal coming out so they keep schtum now.

Basically, religtards have much to hide in their history and there's a press hungry for scandal. No christard group dare attack another christard group lest they themselves get attacked.

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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood

by cappytan in

fact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.

fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..

so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?

Doltologist

Bugbear

They are not written on paper or Papyrus, they are written of stones in original. They are not transcriptions of translated transcriptions who is translated destroyed and translitterated again.

You forgot to mention "and guaranteed free from lying christard inserts".

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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood

by cappytan in

fact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.

fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..

so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?

Doltologist

Cappytan

Fact: Bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 BCE, depending on which scholar you listen to.

Fact: the Great Pyramid of Giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 BCE.

Well, I wasn't around at the time of the great flood (or was that the Big Rain (Vicar of Dibley-style?)) but I've been to see the pyramids and even crawled around in one. I can assure you there isn't one tide mark. Maybe I should have gone to Specsavers?

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Ignorant Atheist Talk Show Host Destroyed by Agnostic Dr. Bart Erhman! Topic "Did Jesus and Paul exist?"

by MagicMItchJensen in

i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.

the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.

1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.

Doltologist

Sparrowdown

Here we go.

There we went.

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Ignorant Atheist Talk Show Host Destroyed by Agnostic Dr. Bart Erhman! Topic "Did Jesus and Paul exist?"

by MagicMItchJensen in

i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.

the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.

1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.

Doltologist

The fact is that there is no CONTEMPORARY evidence that jesus ever existed. Given that he went around Galilee preaching to 5,000+, performing miracles, preaching at the local temples and upsetting the userer's tables, that's a bit odd, especially as we had all those Romans writing things down.

The first non-christard reference that occurs was by Josephus in 94/95 AD (60 - 61 after jesus popped his cloggs). The two passages that refer to jesus were little more than a sentence one of which has been shown to be a definite insert by early christards. Looks like they lied even back then. There's question marks over the second also. In addition, Josephus lived less that 30 minutes walk from where jesus lived and yet never mentions it. Josephus' references are secondary pieces of evidence questionable at best. What was Josephus' source? Who knows, he doesn't say.

The next reference doesn't occur until 106 AD in Tacitus. That's 87 years after jesus popped his cloggs. This source is thought to be genuine and not a christard insert. However, at best, this is a tertiary source. What was Tacitus source? Who knows, he doesn't say either. Again, this source amounts to a sentence or two.

So, the 3 sources amount to less than a paragraph between them, one of which even scholars dismiss as being a christard insert and non of which are contemporary with jesus.

This IS the evidence for the existence of jesus - apart from the babble.

For those who wish to know more, visit Carrier's lectures on Youtube.

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2015 convention interviewer praises parents who shunned their kid

by defender of truth in

what was it that moved your child to return to jehovah?

asks the speaker.. .

well it was the missed association with the family, says brenda sutton proudly and unflinchingly.. andd heres why, i had always told our kids... i would die for you, i love you, would die for you, but if you ever leave jehovah i wouldnt be there.

Doltologist

Don't ya just love jovies?

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Doltologist

Millie210

Continuing in devils advocate mode...the thing that gives me pause in the can/cant prove God does exist argument, is that atheists are no happier than everyone else.

Over the centuries, christards have murdered between 100 and 200 million souls. That doesn't include those souls that they raped, pillaged, tortured and enslaved.

christinsanity is the most murderous cult the world has ever seen. Not bad for a cult that insists that it is about peace and love.

Other religtards have murdered countless millions too.

I don't know about you but I'm happier not being a religtard than being one and condoning its history.

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Now Even JW Men Are Going To Die At The Big A

by OneFingerSalute in

so this weekend there was a part about not following jesus at a distance.

the speaker made a big point of stating that any baptized jw male who was not either appointed ms/elder, or at the very least "reaching out" actively, was in fact following jesus at a distance.

he said that the only way to live through the big a was to follow jesus closely.

Doltologist

Are these religtards for real?

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Doltologist

D4G

My point is, a single book will not do it.

Some of us don't need a book at all. We just 'know' that there is no god. The idea is just so preposterous.

For some, 1,000 books will not be enough. They want to believe in god and that's the end of it.

The bulk of the people are somewhere in the middle. Some people need a range of books to be convinced. Some just need the right book.

Which ever camp you are in people, ffs, get on, read, accept that god doesn't exist. and lets get this farcical episode in Man's history out of the way so that we can move on.

In the years to come, future Man is going to look back on this part of Man's history and say, "They believed in what? A sky wizard that knew all, heard all and saw all! WHY?"

It's embarrassing.